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Maybe you should consider to think in terms of "strategy", because nothing is single dimensional. Power is never a singular elements, its a combination of factors converging into function, is what produces 'power".
definition of "Strategy" ((a plan of action or policy designed to achieve a major or overall aim.))
definition of "Power" = (( the capacity or ability to direct or influence the behavior of others or the course of events )).
American people need to come to terms to get past shallow thinking, sadly, shallow thinking is often the result of people driven by a sense of over-confidence, based on incomplete data, and fictions.
Maybe you should choose an actual supportive example instead of an unrelated event that would have occurred regardless of who was in the White House.
not really. This is a myth. Countries have to follow WTO regulations and cant just slap tariffs on products left and right as they please.
No they "can't just slap them on as they please." True. But how does that make it a myth that Chinese tariffs already exist? They currently exist, and have done for some time. China already imposes tariffs on some products, selective hi VAT rates on others.
Maybe you should choose an actual supportive example instead of an unrelated event that would have occurred regardless of who was in the White House.
Anyway I'm British.
China did not need to come 8 thousand miles away to enagage for the sake of cheap labor, please review the world map, and consider what is cheap labor and the multitude of places where it exist with far less expenditure of transportation.
Then we are right back at the point of "strategy". Now whether that strategy would have been pursued based on who was or is President of the US. is an "unknown" as well as "timing" is in realism, unknown.
Even more so, the matter of timing to be engaged at the point of "now"; is indicative of a "strategy" being the instrumental concern, especially when overt comments which have been challenging and demeaning have been made toward/against both China and Mexico.... Such obtuse conduct by the sitting President as much was said out of his mouth that was demeaning and of bodacious utterances before he was even sworn it. So, they were prepared for such.
Being aware of such, is itself its own supportive example and is and should be example enough to grasp precept of what is motivations and how is disclosure, in relations to the timing of acts.
The message is, the world does not submit itself to a "One Trick Pony Show", nor is it going to submit to "One Monkey Stopping A Show, type of functioning. We live in a world, of "multiple players", whom all have a vested interest, unto their own populations. in very simple terms, what that means and implies is:, "the white boy rules game" is over, as is the game of "white boy making all the rules is over".... The world is not what it was in the 1940's. (just so you know this is not some racist statement, all the world knows of what american knows of the divisiveness pushed during the campaigning the race divisiveness, the comments about Mexicans and Chinese, as well too, they know of Bannon's History of link to white supermacist and white nationalist, Sessions race biased History, and they certainly know of Trumps history as it relates to bigotry and ethnic racism and cultural biases)
this is just the beginning of that messages that are being delivered and acted upon by world nations, as Trump will see; as he keeps stomping forward as if this is Post World War II Era of the 1940's and 1950s.
No comment on your reference to being British. I don't see a direct relevancy to whats being discussed.
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Unless that product can only be sourced in Mexico, then thats not going to happen.
Cars? No. ACs? No. Fruits and veg? No (even avocados - since California produces them, Guatemala and CR and other central and South American countries produce them etc.. Whose going to buy a $5 Mexican avocado when there are $4 hass avocados on the shelf? no one. So the Mexcian cos. have to take the hit and reduce their price so it meets what the market pays for that product....).
The only product I can see so far that has no non-Mexican source in any large amount is blue agave tequila and Mezcal.
Avocados in Mexico cost $2.5 USD / KG arround $0.5USD per Avocado. You already are buying them at very high overcosts associated to the Logistics and the Stores which sell them. Walmert is Greedy, isn't it?
Avocado Producers sell their avocados around 0.5 USD per Kg. Or 10 cents per avocado.
China did not need to come 8 thousand miles away to enagage for the sake of cheap labor, please review the world map, and consider what is cheap labor and the multitude of places where it exist with far less expenditure of transportation.
Then we are right back at the point of "strategy". Now whether than strategy would have been pursued based on who was or is President of the US. is an "unknown", even more so, the matter of timing is indicative of a "strategy" being the instrumental concern, especially when overt comments which are challenging and demeaning have been made against both China and Mexico....
Being aware of such, is itself its own supportive example and is and should be example enough to grasp precept of what is motivations and how is disclosure, in relations to the timing of acts.
No comment on your reference to being British. I don't see a direct relevancy to whats being discussed.
Its cheaper for a Chinese automaker wishing to sell cars in Mexico, south and central America to make those cars with cheap labor in Mexico than make those cars with cheap labor in China and then ship them.
Also it would be a strategic blunder to simply look at the world map and guess at transportation costs since gross transportation costs and shipment time aren't simply a function of distance. Rather, there are myriad costs, conveniences, red tape, and tariffs involved.
As for the timing of the strategy, do you you really think that the Chinese automaker made a sudden decision within the last few weeks on the flip of a coin or that they had been researching and doing the due diligence for months and months before pulling the trigger?
One dimensional thinking usually begets one dimensional answers.
Avocados in Mexico cost $2.5 USD / KG arround $0.5USD per Avocado. You already are buying them at very high overcosts associated to the Logistics and the Stores which sell them. Walmert is Greedy, isn't it?
Avocado Producers sell their avocados around 0.5 USD per Kg. Or 10 cents per avocado.
I buy mine, and papayas, from an El Salvadorian guy at around a $1 each. Mind you, he has to pay hi property taxes for his bodega.
Seeing the forrest for the trees is tough....it's basically yet another step of China and Mexico growing closer in trade...exacerbated by Trump's actions....not every country needs the US for everything....and an increasing economic partnership between our largest military and economic rival with our southern border nation is a losing situation for the US- but by all means keep going about walls and tariffs...and then keep wondering why middle class jobs and lifestyles are going away...manufacturing jobs in the rust belt are not worth hurting our whole economy over...I don't know where this notion began that these are the most important jobs in the US...
"Exacerbated by trumps Actions"? Do you really believe a deal like this was hatched overnight. Get a clue.
We need to be honest about our country's future by LOOKING AT our history.
How did America become a rich and powerful country?
1. some of the greatest engineers we've ever had had ancestors who came from countries like Ireland or Germany.
2. America's system of merit also works. One of the reason why most empires such as Britain are vestigial now is because of incompetent rulers who wasted their nation's finances and appointed the wrong advisers simply due to political connections. In America, you are allowed to rise and fall on your work ethic.
3. Free market system works. In old time Europe,most services were completely controlled by one guild or merchant,who restricted trade and competition. In America,anyone can start a business that can compete with other companies.
4.Massive land and fertile crops is also a factor.
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Centuries of free labor is a major factor.
6. Tons and tons of natural resources.
7. Last two world wars fought on other soil.
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