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Because my point is not valid? Those aren't intermediate pictures?
No they are not. I fly fish the streams all the time. The streams are little changed from the first time I saw them 50 or so years ago.
The first link I gave has a nice slideshow showing all stages of the process.
Pretending streams haven't been destroyed and that the water is clean doesn't make it so. No one is saying every stream in WV has been destroyed but a significant number have.
I have to admit I have spent much time in Rural America but also much time in places like California and Colorado which are filled with overwhelmed people trying to live a millionaires lifestyle at the end of the day.
But at the end of the day, people in West Virginia have a non-existent commute, very little pollution, low electric bills from all the coal and most of them have houses paid off with hardly any property taxes.
Love seeing the 91 from Riverside into Orange County at 5am packed with miles long traffic jams as West Virginians will be in bed for a couple more hours with their non-existent commutes
California chasing fantasies by either paying a million plus for a small house or commuting in bumper to bumper traffic for hours each way thinking that they will all be rich executives some day.
2,100 median mortgage payment in California, 900 in West Virginia
Some of us actually do own our homes & vehicles, have a short (<15 minutes) commute, and find the cost of living affordable even for a one-income household. Just sayin'.
Here in Texas, a state choking under conservative Republican rule, our property taxes are sky-high, our public schools struggle to get by due to stingy funding, and we have one of the highest national rates of medically uninsured. All that and we have bad traffic and a majority of home owners have mortgages. Oh, and I'm a liberal and I don't look down at people from Mississippi and West Virginia. So that blows your theory out of the water.
And some of us have also lived in Appalachia or the deep South, fought tooth and nail to get out, and will never, ever go back. I've asked my husband if he'd ever go back to Alabama, and he looks at me like I've lost my mind.
The first link I gave has a nice slideshow showing all stages of the process.
Pretending streams haven't been destroyed and that the water is clean doesn't make it so. No one is saying every stream in WV has been destroyed but a significant number have.
Ringo1 you just come across as a bitter jerk or something with an axe to grind you probably didn't get the promotion you wanted at whatever company you was at or something when you were in WV. Plenty of ppl are doing well in WV I've never seen anyone hate on WV like you do. I doubt you even know very much about it.
The cost of living is much lower than many areas. When you factor in the cost of living coefficient WV is ranked around 22 for quality of life. Which means if you're happy with a middle class lifestyle you can achieve it much easier in WV. Average salaries in a state mean nothing alone you have to factor in the cost of living coefficient, the unemployment rate, property taxes, etc.
People do that there, was it banned or something? I'm confused. I was at one of the state parks in last October and there was so many people there it was annoyingly overcrowded.
Only uneducated people that aren't very smart actually believe any state is known for that lol. Let me guess..you voted for Hillary. Anyone in a red state is a deplorable right?
I lived in WV for years, dear, I know quite a lot about the state. Some of my family is still there. Take your bitterness elsewhere.
Promotions have little to do with companies pulling out of WV - they simply leave. You are not facing facts if you don't admit that WV has been hemorraging jobs for years now. Young people continue to leave because they HAVE to and WV is one of the states that is losing population instead of gaining.
That's just a fact; it is what it is.
I don't regret following my job out of state; sorry; I just don't.
Do I think WV needs to try and further promote tourism as opposed to destroying their mountains?
Yes. Yes, I do.
I would love to see WV thrive but denial won't make it happen. You know what they say about taking the girl out of the mountains, etc.
I lived in WV for years, dear, I know quite a lot about the state. Some of my family is still there. Take your bitterness elsewhere.
Promotions have little to do with companies pulling out of WV - they simply leave. You are not facing facts if you don't admit that WV has been hemorraging jobs for years now. Young people continue to leave because they HAVE to and WV is one of the states that is losing population instead of gaining.
They haven't been hemorrhaging jobs. There were never a ton to start with because of the topography of the state and the lack of infrastructure. For years people didn't want roads running everywhere. That has changed somewhat. Toyota has made big investments in the state both with Toyota and Hino.
Many of the young people do leave as they want the amenities of a large city. There is nothing wrong with that and it's never going to happen in WV. That's not good or bad, it's just the way it is.
I make regular trips to Cleveland (my hometown) and Pittsburgh to get things I can not here but every time I realize that I no longer want to deal with the traffic on a daily basis.
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That's just a fact; it is what it is.
I don't regret following my job out of state; sorry; I just don't.
Nor should you. You shouldn't demean the decisions of others either.
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Do I think WV needs to try and further promote tourism as opposed to destroying their mountains?
Yes. Yes, I do.
I'm good with going places and having them all to myself. It's nice to walk the banks of the streams and rivers and not have to look at trash (like I do along the Ohio River where I live).
Tourism is great but far too many are disrespectful. One can argue that can go for strip mining also. Make that argument but make it honestly.
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