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Being blacks commit a disproportionate amount of the crime in this country, this number does not surprise me, and yes I am sure there are some that should not be there(wrongly convicted) but a majority of them belong there. Now if it were the other way around, would you be crying? Not a peep.
You haven't read my full OP if you believe I wouldn't make a peep about white people in jail. There are too many people in jail period, but racism is evident in the amount of black people in prison.
Thanks for your comment. I would argue with them in black people committing more crime, they just get charged and sentenced the most. There are a lot of white people who either get slaps on the wrist, or have their charges dropped.
I think most of the problem is blacks tend to be repeat offenders, therefore longer sentences.
You have no conscious if it doesn't bother you. Are you telling me all 900,000 are criminals?
The problem is in the way we define "criminal". I can guarantee you that many of those 900k are there for victimless crimes.
I recall reading that the US has more laws than every other country, including those much safer than the US. That means it's a lot easier to end up imprisoned in the US than anywhere else.
No, they are not- but proven fact is, same crime a black will see jail time before a white will-- just facts
But its not just about race it is about the type of crime - as child predators... get probation, and a class-- steal from a casino-- LIFE -- you got dollars like affluenza stupid kid -- except ran off top mexico... probation. Wall street embezzlement- price rigging, mtg fraud...they take MILLIONS ... and get 5 yrs,,, poor dude sells some dope 20! let me not get started because~ I will fill the page
Violent crimes always tend to get a heavier sentence. Right or wrong, that's the way it is.
Better yet, think about how many more will be added to prisons if Sessions has his way and federal marijuana laws are enforced against states who have already legalized it for medical or recreational uses.
For Trump and his cronies, arrests and prisoners = $, even if it is at the taxpayers expense.
Yea, I see a huge court battle, these states are not going to give up the revenue produced by legal weed. If the states win, then you cold see it legalized federally, as it should be.
I applaud your post...posting something like this here on C-D is like chumming sharks..all the crypto-racists will be foaming at the mouths. They will say that since Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime..they occupy a larger percentage of prison beds. This ignores the larger underlying social issues--of course, racism has always been America's dirty little secret--although in today's political climate, many no longer feel they have to dissemble about their beliefs.
I am familiar with threads posted about blacks here at C-D. I cringed when I read the OP's post. Unlike the Clintons who would advocate for anything that put money in their pockets, Trump will address the job and education crisis and the illegal alien infestation that is making it even more impossible for blacks, especially in urban areas, to survive.
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Better yet, think about how many more will be added to prisons if Sessions has his way and federal marijuana laws are enforced against states who have already legalized it for medical or recreational uses.
For Trump and his cronies, arrests and prisoners = $, even if it is at the taxpayers expense.
I do not think this is even relevant. Marijuana seems to be much more favored by whites than blacks.
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Thanks for your comment. I would argue with them in black people committing more crime, they just get charged and sentenced the most. There are a lot of white people who either get slaps on the wrist, or have their charges dropped.
Not necessarily any white people, but those wealthy enough to buy their way out. Much of this still goes to economic class also, well, unless one is an illegal alien where they provided sanctuary, etc. when committing crimes that many would go to prison for.
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Don't commit criminal acts, you won't go to jail.
Otherwise the demographics don't bother me.
We aren't talking about going to jail, but being sent to for-profit prisons for non-violent crimes, that is where the increase is. Community service would save us a lot of money for non-violent criminals. The foster care expense alone is huge.
The current situation with illegal aliens makes your comment incorrect. Over 1 million prisoners are there for non-violent crimes, separated from their families, not paying taxes on wages but costing us a bundle to keep them behind bars. Making a bundle for the private prison industry which is a huge lobby!
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I wholeheartedly agree with this! Personally I believe the first American issue that needs to be resolved, is directly helping black America. The economic issues for this group have been glaring for centuries. If we get this one off our back, we can move forward and enter a golden age for all Americans.
The first issue is helping all Americans by getting the economy straightened out so that there are jobs. I am sure you know that black Americans have a higher unemployment rate and have, like many others, been replaced by cheap illegal labor.
I still hold that much of the issue is not racial, but economic. Many black Americans are doing well.
I also want to apologize for the ignorance about race expressed by some of the posters here. Ignorance is often the worst enemy in play. The spineless will speak out here where they are anonymous, but to your face, thankfully, most will keep their traps shut unless they are among their own.
Surely you have noticed the protectiveness toward illegal aliens, even the ones committing serious violent crimes against US citizens, while condemning blacks for, well, lots of stuff that was unnecessary.
Just the facts, sadly, people who have developed racist attitudes are rarely interested in facts:
The safety net and efforts to address poverty are one of the main reasons for this fact. In 1960, 1.3% of black men were incarcerated. Today the figure is 4.3%. One of the reasons is the destructive effect of Great Society programs that allegedly tried to reduce poverty by paying black women to have babies outside of marriage and making it unnecessary for black men to work if they wanted children.
I agree, but try taking the free stuff away and major riots will ensue. It is a huge problem blacks are to blind to see. Take the free stuff away and see how quickly things begin to change.
Slaves vs Criminals. I don't see why you're comparing the two.
Slaves were, for the most part, unwilling participants of their circumstances. Criminals are responsible for their own actions.
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