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Seems this one has flown a bit under the radar with the GOP Healthcare bill getting all the spotlight, but a Democrat has put forth one as well. A system designed to give everyone insurance under the Medicare blanket.
I think Medicare's funding and how it's managed would need to be completely revamped to handle this kind of expansion. T'would be interesting to see the CBO's take on it.
Right! The fed has done such a "good" job with the VA and some want to turn the ENTIRE country over to them.
Pay close attention to what that scatter plot chart tells us... Note that the highest levels of government benefits and services are provided by countries (Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Belgium) in which taxes are flat (everyone pays the same tax rate) or regressive (shown as the negative values, meaning a greater tax burden is placed on those with lower incomes). And note where the USA falls on the graph. The USA has the most progressive tax system and therefore is least able to fund progressives' societal "wants" including single payer health care because the tax base is too narrow, and therefore generates insufficient tax revenue to fund such programs.
(Scatter Plot info, for those who need more explanation of what Scatter Plots tell us: Scatter Plots - Math is Fun)
Will any of you address that discrepancy? You want the goodies other countries have, but you don't want to make the sacrifices their citizens make to have them. You're NOT willing to pay for them. You only want someone else to pay for your goodies.
Pay close attention to what that scatter plot chart tells us... Note that the highest levels of government benefits and services are provided by countries (Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Belgium) in which taxes are flat (everyone pays the same tax rate) or regressive (shown as the negative values, meaning a greater tax burden is placed on those with lower incomes). And note where the USA falls on the graph. The USA has the most progressive tax system and therefore is least able to fund progressives' societal "wants" including single payer health care because the tax base is too narrow, and therefore generates insufficient tax revenue to fund such programs.
(Scatter Plot info, for those who need more explanation of what Scatter Plots tell us: Scatter Plots - Math is Fun)
Will any of you address that discrepancy? You want the goodies other countries have, but you don't want to make the sacrifices their citizens make to have them. You're NOT willing to pay for them. You only want someone else to pay for your goodies.
A lot of those extra taxes paid by lower earners are not income taxes btw, they are mostly from VAT
A lot of those extra taxes paid by lower earners are not income taxes btw, they are mostly from VAT
Not exactly. Other countries have MUCH flatter income tax brackets, as well. For example, income taxes apply starting at incomes as low as $2,500/year, and their middle class is in their top tax bracket whereas here in the US, the top tax bracket doesn't kick in until a $400,000/year income. And, yes, by all means, implement a 25% VAT to help fund UHC.
Don't hold your breath on Socialized Medicine for all or some sort of Medicare for all.
I hate Medicare and would love to go back to the Insurance I had before I was forced onto Medicare.
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Then go back to your old insurance.
I have two friends who are in private practice. Both of them are keeping the insurance they have had for years. They might sign up for Medicare sometime I'm the future, but for right now, even though they are eligible for Medicare, they are content with what they have.
Who is "forcing" you onto Medicare? Tell that person to back off, that you have insurance that you like better.
Right! The fed has done such a "good" job with the VA and some want to turn the ENTIRE country over to them.
We do not want a VA type system. We do not want the Feds to own and control all of our HC delivery. We should want to continue to allow that to be mostly privately held and run. The Feds can pay, but shouldn't run this part of HC. IMO.
That will result in only the affluent that are healthy having coverage. Sick people will be priced out of the market as will low income people. The old system was failing. Obamacare didn't solve the problem. The current Republican solutions will make things even worse. Medicare for all is the only viable solution currently out there. And for the record I voted for Trump.
The current proposal will cost the Republicans dearly come 2018.
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