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Old 04-07-2017, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Originally Posted by Mikelee81 View Post
I disagree. I think it's pretty clear biology tells us it's natural for the family unit to include a male with a female. This is clear independent of one's religious ideology.

It's like putting together the pieces of the puzzle. It's really not that difficult to understand.

Two guys or two girls having sex is not natural. The parts do not line up. People are only fooling themselves if they believe this.

No need to impress this foolishness onto young minds that half the time know better than the adults, especially true nowadays.
Not really, no. In nature, for example, there are species where the female will pick one partner to raise the offspring and then go get knocked up by a different mate. Basically natural selection has worked to favor that behavior as the best provider is not necessarily the best sperm contributor so the females pick some poor sap to raise someone else's kids and screw around. That's perfectly natural behavior. It wouldn't fly well with most people's social constructs though. Social monogamy and extra-pair copulation is the norm in most bird species, for example, while many species just don't exhibit monogamy at all, including primates. Likewise in nature there's thousands of examples of species that engage in homosexual, bisexual, and non-reproductive sex. Quite natural regardless of one's religious ideology.

In actuality, monogamy is the exception in nature and not the rule. Most species are not monogamous. And really even humans aren't nearly so monogamous as we like to pretend. Infidelity is quite common in marriage. Definitely socially stigmatized with lots of artificially imposed negative consequences on it. And yet it occurs and occurs regularly, so apparently it's pretty natural in humans as well despite the social constructs to repress it.

Natural is a horribly weak argument for the social construct of monogamy and the intact nuclear family. It just doesn't hold up, at all. A much stronger argument is outcome. It might not be natural but it works. Same-sex works as well though. Most studies don't find any significant difference in outcome of children of same-sex parents, although there's some dispute in that to support your position. It's fairly tenuous but it does exist.

Last edited by Malloric; 04-07-2017 at 12:46 AM..

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