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Social Justice Warriors and left fascism wants to destroy Western values. This is a goal they share with the radical Islam. That women in Islam are treated poorly is not an issue for these people.
I like how you people just blather on and on even when you've been told your ideas about us are untrue.
Because I hold Western values in such high esteem - freedom, individuality, equity - I must uphold those values for everyone, even those with whom I vehemently disagree.
Again, why is this a difficult concept to understand?
Social Justice Warriors and left fascism wants to destroy Western values. This is a goal they share with the radical Islam. That women in Islam are treated poorly is not an issue for these people.
People aren't as irrational as they seem. Liberals see Muslims as allies in a larger fight against conservatism. They defend Muslims, as a means of defending themselves, and to further their interests.
Think of it like "freedom of speech". No one actually believes that other people should have freedom of speech. But, they believe that they should have freedom of speech, and they realize that they can only have freedom of speech, if they let others have freedom of speech as well.
And the truth is, when they believe they can take freedom of speech away from others, withing risking a loss of freedom of speech for themselves, they do.
Don't focus on what people say; people will rarely admit their real motivations. If they support something, think of how they benefit from it, and that will explain why they believe it.
As I always say, "People believe what they want to believe. And they want to believe things which are useful. No one wants to believe something that limits or opposes them. They instinctively reject it, and look for a justification to ignore it or attack it."
We aren't here to find out if we are right. We're here to tell others they are wrong.
There is a difference between a liberal (who accepts opposing points of views) versus a radical SJW intolerant left winger. In other words the liberals have been infected with a high degree of intolerance and fascism.
Yes, new terms have been cropping up lately such as "Il-liberal" and "regressive left" Some people are going around talking about needing a new center. IDK, I'm center slight left, sounds good too me.
Liberal as a term has been hijacked, destroyed and friggin stomped on to the point that it doesn't' even hardly resemble what the text book definition is anymore.
This stuff going down in Berkeley and other colleges is a prefect example of shutting free speech down because you don't like a particular point of view. They throw around terms like racist to shut people down.
The only thing that even remotely comes close to a rational explanation, is that Conservatives are against Islam, so Liberals robotically just cling to the opposite of whatever Conservatives do.
That's the only explanation that, while still nonsensical, does adds up.
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I don't want ANY fundie religion telling me what I can or can't do with my body or who I can sleep with.
Zip. Zero. Zilch.
Since Islam isn't busy trying to insert their religion into my government - Christianity is the one I have to focus on most.
I feel like if Christian fundies had their way - women would be second class citizens and homosexuals would be killed.
Not your everyday Methodist, mind you, strictly fundies.
Yeah? Wait till Islam becomes a political force in this country. Better yet, move to a Muslim majority country that already exists. Indonesia, which is considered by far the most progressive and democratic of all Muslim majority countries, forces females to undergo the "2 finger test" before being allowed to serve in public roles like police forces.
Why the heck do you care if somebody is accepting of gay marriage or not? I also like the indirect bash on single parents there - classy!
I don't care if someone chooses to "marry" a lamp post and their copy of Windows, but I do care when such choices and the relationships involved are presented to children as normal, valid and wholesome. As to single-parent households, I was raised by my grandparents after my mother decided partying was more important than efforts towards the child she chose to bring into the world rather than take the more logical choice of abortion. But while my grandparents were by every measure blood family, I knew our arrangement was neither ideal nor "normal". There's the fact.
On the Islam part, at my daughter's school an incident occurred. During a lesson, the kids were sitting scattered about, some on the floor, some on the beanbags, and a few, including mine, on the sofa. The teacher asked my daughter why she was sitting at the far end and my girl said "because I choose to and feel more comfortable here". Called out into the hall, the teacher asked further. I've taught my daughter to be honest, and she replied "I'm fine there, and I don't want to sit squished up against [classmate]". The teacher asked why and my girl, still being honest, answered "because she's Muslim and it makes me uncomfortable, so I choose to sit at the other side where I can still participate just as well." The teacher tried to give me a talking to when I arrived for pickup. I asked, "Did my daughter harm or insult anyone? Was she rude?" "No, but we want everyone to be friends." "That's not realistic." I replied. "Life is about getting along, not about being friends with hugs for everyone. If she was physically harmful, or insulting, or out of line, we'll talk about it. As it is, I see no problem as she found a way to deal with it without being any of the above."
My daughter moved to another private school, actually a far better one academically, the following September. That first school was a little too liberal, but to took me awhile to learn that.
I am what you would consider a liberal. I do not accept Islam or any other authoritarian type of religion (that includes Christianity). As far as religions go however, I am more accepting of Christianity than I ever will be of Islam even though I am not a believer. Islam, however, has no place in a civilized Western society.
I attack conservatives because they continuously try and enact Draconian policies that f*** the elderly, poor, middle class, minorities, non-religious, etc. I absolutely loathe their thinly veiled attempts at inserting their religious dogma into the government and publicly funded institutions like schools by trying to pass off "intelligent design" as a valid scientific theory.
Unconditionally supporting a group they deem to be underdogs gives progressives a chance (in their minds) to pat themselves on the back.
Pretty much this^
Liberalism is a culture based on making excuses for why things are the way they are instead of just accepting the easiest answers because one doesn't like the truth. Most liberals tend to see the world how they would like it to be instead of how it really is.
Don't get me wrong, conservatism is a hugely flawed ideology as well, but this this is the best way to some up why liberals are so lost on things like this.
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