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Obamacare raised millions of peoples premiums and deductibles so high that they are being forced to pay for insurance that they can't afford to actually use.
That means people aren't going to the doctor for preventative care, and things like early cancer detection are being lost to the bureaucracy.
WRONG. In my hospital and practice, the number of patients seen has gone up, and the surgical caseload has gone UP, as there are more people with insurance. When 20 million more people have insurance, they tend to use it. Ask the people in rural Kentucky about how the Affordable Care Act has changed things for them. This is a topic that's been well-covered in the media. Those people do NOT want to lose their insurance, and if they do, the Emperor Drump is in trouble (well, more than he already is).
I'm glad someone brought that concept up. A healthcare co op is the OBVIOUS answer for anyone who wants to participate in sharing medical costs. There are a number of them and from what I've read, they work just fine.
The idea is that when someone in the pool of participants needs medical attention, they get it, and the pool splits the cost amongst themselves or alternates on paying the cost (to a certain cap). Another form has each participant paying a monthly fee similar to insurance. BUT it is not for profit and the only overhead is the cost of the staff that runs the program. There is no charge beyond the actual medical cost within the pool. If nobody gets sick, nobody pays.
So why are more people not interested in this sort of plan? In some cases, it's because they didn't know that such a plan existed. In other cases, it's because there is no coercion. A certain segment of our populace gets wood only when there is coercion. It's sort of a non-whip-and-chain BDSM fetish. "You WILL do as I say, by god!"--those words make some folks tingle all over and quiver in delight.
That's not the example that was directed at me, being on a ventilator and being a vegetable was. Either way if I didn't have the ability to enjoy my life which is far different than how he enjoys it, I'd still choose letting me croak. That isn't any kind of life having to depend on others to assist with every aspect of "life" no way. That's not living...
And that should be your choice.
I'm just giving an example of a disabled person who still has a very full life.
No. I've managed to pay for my own healthcare for the last 45 years, so others can too. As of next month, YOU get to pay for my healthcare. How does that really feel to you ?
Awesome!!!
I would happily pay for ALL to have access to healthcare.
I'm sorry this seems to be such a foreign concept to some on here.
I'm glad someone brought that concept up. A healthcare co op is the OBVIOUS answer for anyone who wants to participate in sharing medical costs. There are a number of them and from what I've read, they work just fine.
The idea is that when someone in the pool of participants needs medical attention, they get it, and the pool splits the cost amongst themselves or alternates on paying the cost (to a certain cap). Another form has each participant paying a monthly fee similar to insurance. BUT it is not for profit and the only overhead is the cost of the staff that runs the program. There is no charge beyond the actual medical cost within the pool. If nobody gets sick, nobody pays.
So why are more people not interested in this sort of plan? In some cases, it's because they didn't know that such a plan existed. In other cases, it's because there is no coercion. A certain segment of our populace gets wood only when there is coercion. It's sort of a non-whip-and-chain BDSM fetish. "You WILL do as I say, by god!"--those words make some folks tingle all over and quiver in delight.
Unless of course the people themselves vote it in without "getting wood" OR being coerced.
Think of a 350 million co-op and the bargaining power that would have regarding the containment of illogical and outrageously escalating costs.....oh wait....that's called universal/single payer healthcare delivery.
The free market has continually sliced jobs (and thereby health insurance) for millions of Americans. The free market has dictated that American workers not be re-educated for other jobs.
And you believe the free market will magically find a way for all Americans to get health insurance?
The free market is the death knell of the lower and middle classes. Wake up.
None of that was free, unless you happened to find a cabbie who drives for nothing and buys gas for the cab out of his own pocket, oil refinery workers who are 100% volunteering their time to the refinery, auto workers who work the lines free of charge, a doctor who volunteers his/her time free of charge, a pharmacist who volunteers at the pharmacy, and a group of employees in a pharma-factory who all volunteer.
Do you receive compensation at your place of employment? If so, why do you accept it? Someone might need your product/service, yet lacks the funds to pay for it.
I think ya'll need to stop hanging on the word free. We ALL KNOW that NOTHING is FREE. You know damned well what we are talking about so stop hanging on that word and get on with a productive conversation on the topic at hand.
JFC
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