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Old 05-12-2017, 04:27 PM
 
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Look... It's pretty clear... Either we ALL have religious freedom rights, or we ALL don't... The Constitution's equal protections clause. Get it?
The laws are applied evenly. In the states where Equal Protection has been extended to sexual orientation, all people must serve homosexuals, regardless of religion.
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Old 05-12-2017, 04:32 PM
 
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The laws are applied evenly.
No, they're not. When a Muslim girl can wear a hijab in a public school in which headwear is banned for every other student, but a baker can't decline to bake a wedding cake for a same sex wedding, we do NOT have equal religious freedom rights.
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Old 05-12-2017, 04:33 PM
 
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Chick flipped out. Simple as that.
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Old 05-12-2017, 04:37 PM
 
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Tell that to bakery, catering, photography business, etc., owners. They don't get the luxury of "Free Exercise of Religion."
You just don't understand the difference between the situations. They have the Free Exercise of religion. But as businesses open to the public, they must abide by religiously neutral commercial laws--including anti-discrimination law.
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Old 05-12-2017, 04:51 PM
 
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No, they're not. When a Muslim girl can wear a hijab in a public school in which headwear is banned for every other student, but a baker can't decline to bake a wedding cake for a same sex wedding, we do NOT have equal religious freedom rights.
Actually, you do. Were there requirements for Christian dress code, they'd be allowed to do so in schools. Other religious accommodations will be made for Christians if necessary as well. And the laws that do not allow for refusing to serve gay customers apply to non-Christians as well. The laws are entirely even.
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Old 05-12-2017, 10:18 PM
 
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You just don't understand the difference between the situations. They have the Free Exercise of religion. But as businesses open to the public, they must abide by religiously neutral commercial laws--including anti-discrimination law.
A PUBLIC school must abide by religiously neutral rules, as well. Either ALL students can wear headwear in school, or none can. Religious neutrality. No religion-based discrimination.
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Old 05-12-2017, 10:21 PM
 
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A PUBLIC school must abide by religiously neutral rules, as well. Either ALL students can wear headwear in school, or none can. Religious neutrality. No religion-based discrimination.
Luckily those filled with bigotry towards others don't get to make the rules.
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Old 05-12-2017, 10:23 PM
 
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Luckily those filled with bigotry towards others don't get to make the rules.
How is it bigotry if EVERYONE is allowed to wear headwear in school? It's not.
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Old 05-12-2017, 10:26 PM
 
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The infidel who did that will burn in hellfire.
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Old 05-12-2017, 10:58 PM
 
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How is it bigotry if EVERYONE is allowed to wear headwear in school? It's not.
That isn't how it works and you know that.

The courts have ruled that certain Native American tribes can legally ingest certain illegal substances as a part of their religious ritual. They have proven it a long established part of their religion.

The courts have ruled that doesn't mean just anyone can.
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