Trump Allegedly Gave Highly Classified Info To Those Two Russians Last Week (Palestinians, invasion)

[katzpaw]

twitter.com/Liam220262/status/864498189289873408

[ipaper]

Originally Posted by BentBow

The President of the USA can declassify any information at anytime, even at the drop of a dime, by just telling someone the truth. It is immediately declassified, by President orders.

Just imagine if you will, had Obama did this. Holy hell would have broken loose, and no one would be paying attention or care if it was his right to do so or not. He would have been slammed hard for doing that, and Trump would have been leading the charge during the campaign season and especially at his rallies. I can just hear him saying how stupid was Obama to share information with the Russians.

[skins_fan82]

It won't ever be enough. Some people are willing to let their pride and ego stay on the Trump train as it crashes, derails, and burns.

They're willing to embarrass themselves and lose all credibility as they continue to show 100% loyalty to Trump and never question him.

As it has been pointed out before, many Trump voters get off on Trump pissing people off, and take great pleasure in "seeing liberals angry," regardless of what Trump might be doing to America and its reputation.

[Timmyy]

Originally Posted by MagnoliaThunder

Now THAT is funny...I see you are reading your conservative media...no wonder...

The poster forgot zerohedge.

[MagnoliaThunder]

Originally Posted by Ferd

PS> Mr. Trump, as president has the actual legal authority to determine what is confidential and what is not, and with whom to share that information. period. that is the legal reality.

Well then we ARE in for trouble aren't we? He cannot even determine what is true or false...

All this mud-slinging is actually getting humorous...it's like children on a playground yelling "Nu Uh" and "Uh huh" back and forth and nothing getting done.

[jambo101]

Originally Posted by MagnoliaThunder

...
What will this man have to do before the country takes him OUT of office?

Your logic is faulty if you think theres anything Trump can or will do to turn his base against him. He is considered the messiah by his cult so he can do no wrong as far as they are concerned.

[legalsea]

I shall note that, while I am not a Trump supporter, I am not yet in favor of impeachment.


One reason: I have grave doubts, lawyer that I am, that even if Mr. Trump (or his associates) 'colluded' with the Russians prior to election to influence the election, that said collusion may serve as a basis for impeachment.


Here is the applicable Constitutional clause from Article II:

"The President, Vice President and all Civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."


Does this clause mean treason, bribery etc., committed prior to assumption of office? It is my opinion that it does not; yet, the Court may disagree in future. I would think that the Court would, perhaps, say that treason committed prior to assumption of office may be a basis, but even that is not assured.


I would hate for a scenario to develop in which, anytime a person is elected President, the opposing party (especially if in power in the House) would start to seek out transgressions (high crimes and misdemeanors) perhaps committed by said newly elected President prior to office. I would rather restrict the impeachment process to Acts committed after taking the Oath of Office.


We must recall that Mr. Nixon was not facing impeachment due to the actual break-in of the Watergate hotel. He did not order it, or have knowledge of it beforehand. Rather, he got into hot water over the cover-up and obstruction of justice.


If anything trips up Mr. Trump, it would probably be on the basis of obstruction of justice. I am not one that thinks that Mr. Trump (as some have claimed) committed 'treason' by his Oval Office action with the Russians, for reasons I will not go into here.


I do think that the 25th Amendment is a more realistic possibility. Mr. Trump seems, to some, to lack the emotional stability one expects from the President.

[MagnoliaThunder]

Originally Posted by jambo101

Your logic is faulty if you think theres anything Trump can or will do to turn his base against him. He is considered the messiah by his cult so he can do no wrong as far as they are concerned.

You are correct. I guess I was naive in hoping America could come together to say "enough"...This is a very sad time for us all, even those who don't realize it. And I think many who support this man do so because it seems to give them "permission" to behave and speak in the most ugly, combative and polarizing ways possible. They apparently enjoy that so why should they even care what is happening before our very eyes in our country? If they get backed into a corner they just start criticizing Obama or Hillary, or even Bill if they have nothing else. Very very sad...

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by MagnoliaThunder

Oh my God. You actually believe that? Trump admitted that he did it. Justified it. I guess we'll just have to keep tuned to see what happens...unbelievable.

so the fascist liberals believe every false story from wapo???

trump gave away NOTHING that was classified....he did talk about how to fight ISIS (not classified info)

do you know anything about sharing coalition information in battle

if you ever served in the military you would understand what classified , TS, TSICI, secret, FOUO, FYEO, and sharable info is

[skins_fan82]

When the only argument Trumpers have is to state that Trump legally does possess the authority to declassify any information he sees fit, you know we're in trouble.