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Are you really that clueless? Kaepertwat has started his little tantrum in support of a racist hate group over a year ago. You know...when Obama was president? And people noticed and voiced their disgust from the very first day. The same NFL that permitted this BANNED support for 9-11 victims. The same NFL banned a show of respect for police officers murdered at the hand of BLM supporters. Trump simply said what the vast majority of this country thought and many had already stated. And once again-he was right.
Just think this all went down on Gold Star Mothers Day too.
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Taking a knee has got nothing to do with the flag, or the military. It's about unarmed black people being murdered by cops and DOJ not doing a damn thing about it.
Rs tried to divide the nation over flag burning some years ago. Senator Bob Kerry, decorated veteran, called it out for the despicable partisan BS it was. Mercifully, Rs moved on to some other nonsense.
Looks like their taking another swing at it.
Damn deplorables.
Cowboys owner said Monday night it was about equality and unity.
So - thanks to Presidential tweeting, the NFL and the football fans hate each other now. I am so happy we didn't elect someone divisive.
It's funny when people say things like "Obama was the great divider"...and then we have things like this. Trump in 2 days has done more to inflame this issue than what a few football players kneeling over the last few years did under Obama.
Obama, for all of his faults (and I'll certainly never claim he was perfect - hell, I doubt HE would claim that), at least didn't take to Twitter and pour gallons upon gallons of fuel. He certainly didn't agree with everyone, but he knew how to talk to people who didn't agree with him (most of the time). Even if he played politics, as all politicians did, he did genuinely seem interested in at least hearing the other side. And he respected people's free speech, even if that speech disagreed with his or his party's opinions.
Honestly - this isn't a high bar here, either. Most presidents were this way. Trump is the outlier.
I've never seen a politician as divisive as Trump. And after he leaves, I doubt we will for a long time.
It's funny when people say things like "Obama was the great divider"...and then we have things like this. Trump in 2 days has done more to inflame this issue than what a few football players kneeling over the last few years did under Obama.
Obama, for all of his faults (and I'll certainly never claim he was perfect - hell, I doubt HE would claim that), at least didn't take to Twitter and pour gallons upon gallons of fuel. He certainly didn't agree with everyone, but he knew how to talk to people who didn't agree with him (most of the time). Even if he played politics, as all politicians did, he did genuinely seem interested in at least hearing the other side. And he respected people's free speech, even if that speech disagreed with his or his party's opinions.
Honestly - this isn't a high bar here, either. Most presidents were this way. Trump is the outlier.
I've never seen a politician as divisive as Trump. And after he leaves, I doubt we will for a long time.
LOL - Obama the great uniter. Revisionist history like this borders on a psychiatric disorder. This issue was birthed under Obama and Trump doesn't say anything if it doesn't grow to point of millions upon millions of people being fed up with disrespectful BS.
I'm pretty sure that McDonald's can fire me if I stage a protest while I'm "On-the-clock".
If the NFL players want to protest in their free-time, more power to them. But if their employer says they aren't allowed to protest while "on the job"(which has been a longstanding policy of the NFL), then if they violate this policy, they should be able to fire them.
And if you don't like it, don't watch the NFL. I don't.
I thought so. They have no idea what they are doing....herd mentality. It's fascist making strong men kneel for no good reason other than a belief which is a falsehood. Worked for Hitler.
the fact that they are protesting doesnt bother me, what bothers me is HOW they are protesting. you want to protest police brutality, then go down to the cop shop, grab a sign, and walk a picket line for a few hours or so. i got no problem with that as long as you dont disrupt the day to day comings and goings of the officers. or you can go to city hall meetings and voice your opinions in public where they will do the most good, the city fathers.
but you dont **** off your fan base by disrespecting the flag and the country.
I quite simply don't believe you. I've seen numerous protests over the past five years or so and no matter what tact these protesters take...people tell them they should not be protesting in the first place.
Peer pressure, herd mentality. Not wanting to go against 'group think'.
It seems to me that they are facing a great deal of pressure, but not from their peers.
Before last Friday, the whole "taking a knee" thing was really not on the radar for anyone who doesn't watch football. Some players did it, lots didn't, and most people didn't seem to care much. Then Trump unleashed a tweet storm, and overnight, it became a national obsession. Not only that, but the motivation changed. What started as an act of protest against police brutality became an act defiance against a man who insists that things be done his way. Do the team managers and owners have a right to fire these players? Yes, they do. Does Trump have a right to demand that they fire them? No, he does not.
I don't watch football. I heard about the kneeling thing now and then, because I have a housemate who does, and in the interest of full disclosure, she does not like it. The thing is, the minute Trump started talking about what people "have to" do to show their respect to the flag and the country, I started feeling like taking a knee, myself, JUST BECAUSE I CAN. That impulse has nothing at all to do with disrespecting the US, and everything to do with loving the freedom it represents.
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