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I'm not claiming it is a super cohesive argument or that he is making very clear and specific claims. But if you parse his words and understand the context in which they were made, it is not that hard to understand the motivation. It's really not that confusing. To me, at least.
Regarding the article, I'm not sure if you posted that to agree or disagree with me?
I believe there have been clear cut cases where police acted wrongly. One example that comes to
mind is the black guy at the gas station in SC who was shot dead.
At the same time, I think much of black culture is set up to promote a certain violent kind of lifestyle, and many of the cases that have been blown up by activists and the media, such as the Michael Brown case, show the police action was more than likely justifiable.
There are enormous problems in the inner cities, and in impoverished areas. But Kaepernick's general complaint that blacks are "oppressed" is hard to stomach for millions upon millions of white Americans who see black players collecting huge paychecks and who have never themselves done one thing to oppress a minority in their lives.
I also think it's troubling that Kaepernick chose the flag/anthem as his focus of protest, because that isn't normally associated primarily with the police. The fact that his Muslim BLM activist girlfriend politicized him also rubs me the wrong way. And a guy complaining about oppression who was adopted and raised by white people? When was he oppressed? And let's not forget about him wearing the Che Guevara shirt...talk about people being oppressed!
The second, recent, group are definitely doing so in support of the first group (Kap + the few others that did the same thing?). And there is certainly an anti-Trump feel to it.
I'm not necesarilly claiming they have the same motivations. I was, earlier, really only talking about the protests started by Kap.
To your last point - I certainly am not claiming this is a well-run protest or movement. But I don't think it is that unclear why he started doing it. Absent a website or the checklist you want to see, I don't know if I have anything else to add here.
I think the original protest by Kap was unclear beyond "police brutality" which is little more than a talking point.
Think about this long term. What's the end game here?
Everyone kneels and we all get used to it and then what? There's no cohesion. No substantive message. No mechanisms in place to measure anything.
Not to keep berating you on why group 1 did it or if group 2 did it for the same reason but it shouldn't take a miscellaneous guy on a message board to tell us what is going on. And you're speculating when it comes down to it because nobody has said anything.
Just from a competence standpoint this has been frustrating. If I believed in something and had that kind of money, organization, and media capital I'd sure as hell be able to do better than this. A box of rocks could do better than this.
his teammates made themselves look bad by not joining him....................Ben his QB said he felt bad and couldn't sleep........too late Ben.......Steelers head coach is an a-hole.
I'm not surprised he "regrets" his actions and couldn't sleep the night before.
Roethlisberger is the Quarterback, a LEADER on the team and he didn't have the guts to do what he knew was the right thing ...... but Villanuevo did. He did it quietly and to Ben's credit, Villanuevo asked permission from Ben and got it before going to the mouth of the tunnel. He stood quietly at attention with hand over heart.
I believe there have been clear cut cases where police acted wrongly. One example that comes to
mind is the black guy at the gas station in SC who was shot dead.
At the same time, I think much of black culture is set up to promote a certain violent kind of lifestyle, and many of the cases that have been blown up by activists and the media, such as the Michael Brown case, show the police action was more than likely justifiable.
There are enormous problems in the inner cities, and in impoverished areas. But Kaepernick's general complaint that blacks are "oppressed" is hard to stomach for millions upon millions of white Americans who see black players collecting huge paychecks and who have never themselves done one thing to oppress a minority in their lives.
Hope that made sense.
I too want to know the specific cases they are referencing.
You can speculate all you want but as long as these fools just kneel down and tell us little more we simply don't know.
I'm not surprised he "regrets" his actions and couldn't sleep the night before.
Roethlisberger is the Quarterback, a LEADER on the team and he didn't have the guts to do what he knew was the right thing ...... but Villanuevo did. He did it quietly and to Ben's credit, Villanuevo asked permission from Ben and got it before going to the mouth of the tunnel. He stood quietly at attention with hand over heart.
It's who he is, what he is ..... A Patriot.
Sad to say, he has since apologized for breaking with the team position.
I believe there have been clear cut cases where police acted wrongly. One example that comes to
mind is the black guy at the gas station in SC who was shot dead.
At the same time, I think much of black culture is set up to promote a certain violent kind of lifestyle, and many of the cases that have been blown up by activists and the media, such as the Michael Brown case, show the police action was more than likely justifiable.
There are enormous problems in the inner cities, and in impoverished areas. But Kaepernick's general complaint that blacks are "oppressed" is hard to stomach for millions upon millions of white Americans who see black players collecting huge paychecks and who have never themselves done one thing to oppress a minority in their lives.
Hope that made sense.
Maybe you should read the stories of these black players. Most came from nothing but had strong moms who worked hard and pushed for their success. Why is it hard for you to stomach. Millions upon millions don't see race like you do. We are all americans...black, white, red, brown...we are all the same.
Maybe you should read the stories of these black players. Most came from nothing but had strong moms who worked hard and pushed for their success. Why is it hard for you to stomach. Millions upon millions don't see race like you do. We are all americans...black, white, red, brown...we are all the same.
A lot of people have come from nothing. I agree we are all Americans....and that's why the disrespect for the anthem and flag are so disturbing.
Trump has been very successful at politicizing pretty much any issue. He thrives on this division.
One problem with this "Blame Trump for all perceived grievances - these Dis-Respectful 'protests' agains the American Flag and Anthem started over a year BEFORE he was even elected.
He just brought attention to the FACT that they were escalating ..... and said "ENOUGH".
Turns out that the Majority of the Citizens agree with him, and that is not really HIS fault at all.
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