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Old 08-14-2017, 06:25 AM
 
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Originally Posted by PullMyFinger View Post
People are caring less and less about liberal outrage.
Much of the criticism is also coming from Republicans. It is not liberal outrage it is American outrage.

 
Old 08-14-2017, 06:26 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Originally Posted by TreeBeard View Post
Much of the criticism is also coming from Republicans. It is not liberal outrage it is American outrage.
Dream on pal.
 
Old 08-14-2017, 06:26 AM
 
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Sessions on GMA lying about how the president "explicitly condemned the kind of ideology behind these movements of Nazism, white supremacy, the KKK."

Sessions defends Trump's comments on Charlottesville, says car-ramming fits definition of domestic terror - ABC News

Trump has not explicitly condemned anyone. He made a vague statement about all sides that David Duke, the Daily Stormer, etc. all openly interpreted as support.

Which it was.
 
Old 08-14-2017, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Former land of plenty
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
I never thought I'd see the day when an American president would very carefully parse his words in order to avoid offending Nazis.

But that's exactly where we are today.

Yup. It would be just as bad as offending the Kremlin. Instead, Americans are offended.

Cult 45 hates America and what it stands for.
 
Old 08-14-2017, 06:27 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Originally Posted by Feltdesigner View Post
exhibit A

more excuses for Nazi propaganda
I don't think that poster is supporting nazi propaganda. Unless supporting the first amendment is equal to supporting nazi propaganda. If someone were to take a flamethrower to a bunch of neo nazis, there is a part of me that would get some satisfaction out of that. But as long as they are alive, they have the same right to free speech as every other citizen.
 
Old 08-14-2017, 06:30 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Before we go too far down the that's-why-we-won path, perhaps we should take a look at what what we won which, as luck would have it, is the topic of this thread.

Men are marching with torches and clubs, chanting Nazi slogans, waving Nazi flags, ...

POTUS is defending this.

#MAGA
The President of the United States, Donald Trump, is defending no such thing! Quit lying (but you can't, because that's what Leftists do).

It is more than disgusting, and it is a new low in American politics, that people would accuse the President of the United States, duly elected in a free and fair election, of defending this violence and neo-Nazism, especially when it has been the Democrat Party, not the Republicans, that have been promoting violence (and carrying it out) in open riots in demonstrations against the Constitutional principles that this President stands for. His policies have been American policies for many decades, until recently, when the "open borders" Leftists gained power under Barack Obama, who was the first Anti-American President in U.S. History.

"Progressivism" is not Americanism. It is European socialism (Marxist-socialism) masquerading as "human progress." It is anything but! It is a return to a ruling class mentality, a "governing class" who think they know what's best for the "masses" (the serfs). It is totalitarianism, the very thing our Framers were trying to avoid by the system they designed. This "ruling class" of "Progressives" purposefully calling our Constitutional Republic, "our democracy," in order to force our founding principles into the closet and deceive the ignorant masses. One Senator even introduced legislation to abolish the Electoral College (stupidly ignorant of the fact that this cannot be done without a Constitutional amendment) in order to change our Presidential election to a "popular vote" contest, which would disenfranchise millions of Americans and make their vote meaningless. It would essentially change the role of the President (a representative of the United States in foreign affairs) to a King, rendering the sovereignty of the individual States null and void. Apparently this former Senator (Barbara Boxer, D-CA) is too stupid to understand the reasons our founders created the system we have. The first qualification for public office should be to at least understand our system, why our Framers created it, and to understand the Constitution.
 
Old 08-14-2017, 06:32 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Other countries also have controversial statues, such as the UK where Bomber Harris's statue was condemned by the Mayor of Dresden, and of course the statue of Cecil Rhodes at Oriel College, Oxford University continues to be a source of controversy, whilst Oliver Cromwell (the English Civil War) has a controversial statue outside the Houses of Parliament in London.

When is it right to remove a statue? - BBC News

Bristol's Colston Hall to drop 'toxic' slave trader name - BBC News

Whilst statues of Sean Russell (Fairview park) in Dublin id controversial, and keeps getting his head knocked off.

New statue of Sean Russell 'still contentious' | Irish Examiner

Statue of Nazi ally vandalised | World news | The Guardian

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Old 08-14-2017, 06:33 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
Trump had nothing to do with Charolettesville.

It is his lack of reaction and lack of condemnation of the Neo Nazis white groups that started the fighting .Can you comprehend that?
 
Old 08-14-2017, 06:33 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Originally Posted by TreeBeard View Post
Trump should grow a pair and denounce his neo-Nazi supporters. To not do it, would be un-American.
But he won't because the presidency is all about Trump; what he wants, what he needs, what he thinks, what he gets. No one else in this country matters except for him. He is the most narcissistic person I have ever seen/heard, and there are a heck of a lot of narcissists in the world to use as a basis for comparison. If he denounces the Neo Nazis/KKK, he will alienate a small segment of his support base, and he certainly can't afford to do that. I actually feel sorry for his Republican cleanup crew. Instead of getting anything of substance accomplished, they are spending all their time doing damage control from the latest Trumpian fiasco.
 
Old 08-14-2017, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Liberal news networks are feeding their hate agenda of division. This is their power.." division".. they will never see that BLM or antifa was a critical part in this beat down.

They are feeding a race war pitting whites against blacks as usual. It is disgusting to see this..

I bet many regular folks of all backgrounds want the statues to stay for historical reasons and they were there with no voice. Just regular folks with no hate, no agenda, just sticking up for each side of our civil war and their heritage and losses of life in such a horrible civil war .

The left usually hates war and cares about those people on the other side who are killed. So now we have statues that represent the loss of life in the south. They were Americans as well , just lived in the territory of the south.

People just want to separate us again. The north and the south. Most blacks here on this forum stated in their own posts the civil war was not fought about slavery. It was fought about secession of the states. So now it is that the statues that have been there for this long are now racist. Everything is racist today .. every Trump supporter , even if they are black, Asia, or Hispanic. Just does not make sense to me.

Now the left calls Trump a supporter of the KKK. Sorry folks, it was the democrats that created and carried out the lynching of blacks and the democrats such as Wallace that wanted segregation of the races.

Finally with arm twisting , the democrats decided to pass the civil rights act . More Republicans voted for it than dems.. they knew they were losing the battle. President Eisenhower was the catalyst of ending segregation. LBJ was still a racist. JFK everyone liked. He was a good president, hated communism, was a very conservative democrat. He was strong in his words, stopped a nuclear confrontation that was to the very point of missiles coming from Russia. We have much to be thankful for.

Today I have never seen such division of the races. The hate and divisive message . We have Republicans shot, We have a country that hate this president so much they will try every dirty trick to take him down . The name calling to Trump and his supporters. McCain called us crazies, Hillary called us deplorables and irredeemables. We are fascists , racists, bigots, homophobes. The list of names is getting added to because the left loves labels. They love to put everyone is a basket..

In all my life I have never witnessed this when a president got into office. The liberal media fuels it. They have not one good word to say about all the great things this president has accomplished for the vets, for small business, for the economy . Trump wants to get jobs back. He is a negotiator, not a polished well rehearsed lying politician that says nothing as they dance around a subject when asked anything. It is really kool to hear a man who directly says what he thinks.. I like it.. and many hate him for it.

Oh, the media is now ripping on Trump for saying all sides.. hey people , there were two sides fighting .. Trump got it right as usual. The left hates him for the truth.
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