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https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2017-chicago-murders
coincidence?
Look I get that it is only certain parts, I do. However, I have no desire to find out which parts or to become a statistic. I travel and travel a lot by American standards. I also avoid cities and or countries that have a problem with high crime.
If you don't mind the shootings then live there. The question begs. How long before the shootings begin to spill over into the normally crime free areas?
So major holiday shootings = weekend violence is the norm. Got it.
The shootings have been contained to certain areas since I was a kid.
It's probably best you not visit Chicago. Maneuvering large cities require a modicum of common sense.
Disagree. There are murders every singe weekend, not simply say 10 every weekend.
NYC is down for about a decade to a rate of around 1 murder or slightly less daily. Chicago then, using per capita basis, should be down to about .3 per day, or 1 per weekend. Chicago is close to 2 day, 6x NYC's per capita rate.
I agree it happens in certain sections most, but Chicago experiences murders in almost every district (few exceptions). NYC does not at this point. NYC's safest neighborhoods go years between murders.
You can't have Chicago's gigantic murder rate w/o a spillover to all hoods. NYC had the same thing occur when 35 years ago, 6 a day were murdered in NYC.
Simply put, there is a giant swath of Chicago only criminals should wander freely in.
There are shootings every day, but that's not the point. The point is a poster is disparaging an entire city based on five districts. FIVE.
And again, crime in those areas existed even when I was young and so far they're not spilling over into other neighborhoods. Why? Because gangs don't go wandering through other neighborhoods.
I am a part of the Black community and don't live in fear of my life. My chosen neighborhood and lifestyle is far from violent and no I don't live in an all White community.
One of my friends from Croatia had a summer job as a university student in a popular US beach town, working as a lifeguard. It was also his job to manage the benches on the shoreline that were offered for rental. There were labels on every bench with the daily rental rates written on them. He told me that he had a hard time because black people frequently tore off these labels and occupied the benches. Each time he questioned them, they claimed that there were no label on their benches. In the whole summer, each week went down like that. He said that there was never such a problem with other groups, only blacks. This was a simple young Croatian guy who tried to do his summer job and this was his honest experience.
What could be the explanation that a foreign student guy had such experiences?
It's not ignorant. You don't like it because it's the truth.
I don't like it because in an attempt to debate someone who compared the struggle of African Americans with the struggle of Jews - the poster did the same in a far more disrespectful manner - and proved ignorance about the Jewish struggle in the process.
It's possible to state the two cannot be compared without being ignorant and disparaging. That's what I took issue with.
There are shootings every day, but that's not the point. The point is a poster is disparaging an entire city based on five districts. FIVE.
And again, crime in those areas existed even when I was young and so far they're not spilling over into other neighborhoods. Why? Because gangs don't go wandering through other neighborhoods.
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I posted the map of the districts. Roughly 6 dark blue worst areas, but about a dozen just one shade lighter (2nd worst shade). All but 2 districts had murders in the last year, and Big Picture Chicago murder rate 6x per capita NYC. 2 murders a day in a city whose population is just about the same as Brooklyn.
I am a part of the Black community and don't live in fear of my life. My chosen neighborhood and lifestyle is far from violent and no I don't live in an all White community.
If your location of downtown St. Louis is correct you currently live in a neighborhood that has a crime rate just over 5X the national average.
So major holiday shootings = weekend violence is the norm. Got it.
The shootings have been contained to certain areas since I was a kid.
It's probably best you not visit Chicago. Maneuvering large cities require a modicum of common sense.
Paaalease. I travel a lot. It isn't my fault Chicago has been tagged with a reputation for senseless shootings and gang violence. You get what you accept and Chicago absolutely accepts that parts of it are as dangerous as war zones.
Ok for the sake of argument. Only holiday shootings are the norm. LOL as if that makes it all good, right?
Why doesn't NYC have the same problem? They once did, then they decided that enough was enough.
By the way I do like Chicago style deep dish pizza.
Paaalease. I travel a lot. It isn't my fault Chicago has been tagged with a reputation for senseless shootings and gang violence. You get what you accept and Chicago absolutely accepts that parts of it are as dangerous as war zones.
Ok for the sake of argument. Only holiday shootings are the norm. LOL as if that makes it all good, right?
Why doesn't NYC have the same problem? They once did, then they decided that enough was enough.
By the way I do like Chicago style deep dish pizza.
I don't like it because in an attempt to debate someone who compared the struggle of African Americans with the struggle of Jews - the poster did the same in a far more disrespectful manner - and proved ignorance about the Jewish struggle in the process.
It's possible to state the two cannot be compared without being ignorant and disparaging. That's what I took issue with.
Utter nonsense.
My posts made ZERO statements about Jews and only clarifled the African-American experience and you're mad. No disparaging statements were made about Jews.
But it was fine when Mash123 was comparing African-Americans and Jews and not being accurate about the experiences.of the former.
What you want is for ignorant and disparaging statements about African-Americans. You took issue with the truth being told about African-Americans. You took issue with hearing that 45 different ethnicities were brought to the Americas and in the U.S., any discernable cultures, languages, religions etc were beaten and stripped from them. You took issue with the truth.
Your post is completely disengenuous. Not fooling me at all.
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