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Old 09-08-2017, 05:13 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Are there no gay friendly bakers? Why support someone who does not support you.
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Old 09-08-2017, 05:16 AM
 
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Are there no gay friendly bakers? Why support someone who does not support you.
Its all about the bullying
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Old 09-08-2017, 05:25 AM
 
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Its all about the bullying
It's probably more about the 'right' to bully & how some folks want the government to 'be on their side' when it suits.
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Old 09-08-2017, 05:26 AM
 
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It's probably more about the 'right' to bully & how some folks want the government to 'be on their side' when it suits.
So just let the principles come to their own terms. Too much freedom for ya huh?
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Old 09-08-2017, 05:30 AM
 
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So just let the principles come to their own terms. Too much freedom for ya huh?
Let the "principles come to their own terms"? Do you mean the principals as 'actors' or the principles as in foundational belief systems?
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Old 09-08-2017, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Its all about the bullying
Exactly, and it is these PRESSURE GROUPS from the LEFT that are the bullies. I have no problem with a private business denying me service FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER. I will take my business elsewhere.
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Old 09-08-2017, 05:35 AM
 
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Let the "principles come to their own terms"? Do you mean the principals as 'actors' or the principles as in foundational belief systems?
Any party/s involved in a potential transaction, agreement, arraignment, discussion, relationship..
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Old 09-08-2017, 05:40 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Liberals very obviously embrace capitalism. Take a look at how much money resides on the West Coast. Take a look at how many very successful companies reside in Seattle, in the Bay Area or Los Angeles. And if the Justice Department wants to make it acceptable to refuse service to those they don't like, that's fine.
Exactly. Facebook, Twitter, etc., do that all the time. They suspend accounts of those with whom they ideologically disagree, even though that's a direct violation of a belief in free speech. Wedding goods/service providers can decline to provide goods/services for same sex weddings. That's capitalism. /shrug
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Old 09-08-2017, 05:43 AM
 
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I support a business deciding who to sell what to...as long as it isn't discriminatory. This was a case of
clear discrimination.
No, it wasn't. That same couple had been served numerous times in that same bakery. The baker just declined to create a specific work of art for them: a wedding cake. One cannot compel another to perform services for oneself.
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Old 09-08-2017, 05:45 AM
 
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Any party/s involved in a potential transaction, agreement, arraignment, discussion, relationship..
So, you're saying the 'principals' as in actors in a particular scenario or business interaction?

& what are your insights into the foundational principles upon which a group of peoples societies, communities, nations ... are built?
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