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Old 02-15-2018, 01:45 PM
 
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No stats, but it wouldn't surprise me if US communities have always had more violence than their relatively stable European counterparts.

Still, the angry people are taking that physical product and using it in manner that is increasingly unacceptable.

Isolated deaths, we overlook. The suicides. The domestic violence, perhaps blaming the situation. Here we are paying attention because there are a large number of clear innocents.



The end result is the same for the person who committed suicide. But not if they suicide by a school shooting. Increasingly it's harder to dismiss these shootings as isolated incidents.
And thats pretty much my point, I don't have stats either so I can' claim it as fact. But we have a nation of incredibly angry and violent people mixed with a huge drug abuse problem, and we keep talking like modifying a few gun laws is the answer? Thats the low hanging fruit and its nowhere near as impact as fixing the root cause of the problem.

 
Old 02-15-2018, 01:45 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Thats right. So you'd be exempt from paying the tax if you can prove that you belong to a legally authorized militia.

Read the 2A part about militia.
The one that is suppose to keep the police state off the free state?

I am militia. I am Legion.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 01:46 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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No it isn't. It's the legal possession of dangerous weapons. Weapons than can kill a lot of people quickly and easily with hardly any effort or thought by the killer.
Anyone could make a bomb or chemical weapon from readily available items. Even if you succeeded in confiscating every single gun in the U.S. we'd still have these killers. They would just change weapons.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 01:49 PM
 
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Public school has become a dog and pony show. Kids are not learning anything important. Their parents are apparently too busy being slaves and puppets to status, welfare and money.

This country has turned into a very sick joke because of LIBERALISM, plain and simple!
Don't drag in all that BS. It has nothing to do with it.

This is 100% about the kinds of guns used to kill large numbers of children in a hurry. If you think killing lots of kids fast is kind of neat, you're in favor of the guns.

If you think kids should be free from this scourge, oppose the guns.

These are the choices. There are no others.

I'm as conservative as they come. The Edmund Burke kind of conservative. That's why I support more and more and more and more and more gun control. And if that's not enough there's always more.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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Anyone could make a bomb or chemical weapon from readily available items. Even if you succeeded in confiscating every single gun in the U.S. we'd still have these killers. They would just change weapons.
There they go again. "Instead of taking way the kinds of guns just used to kill 17 children, let's allow people to use them to kill more kids and outlaw bombs instead."

What a great idea! Why didn't I think of it!?

Confuse, deflect, deny. This is what the gun nuts do.

In truth, they're as guilty of these kids murders as the shooter.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 01:53 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Here is the annual conversation on this:

School shooting
Mentally illness
Signs were all there to intervene
Ban guns
 
Old 02-15-2018, 01:53 PM
 
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Hyper-Capitalism is a big part of the problem, as well as the media which is directly connected to the materialistic mindset which drives hyper capitalism and WALL STREET.

Schools are training people to be money grubbing, image dwelling hyper-capitalist and materialist scumbags who care more about things and images than their own families and peers. There is nothing natural about it, it is an abomination.

Public schools are disgraceful, because the parents have been brainwashed into thinking what is wrong is right. There is nothing right about any of it, it is all a disgrace.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Anyone could make a bomb or chemical weapon from readily available items. Even if you succeeded in confiscating every single gun in the U.S. we'd still have these killers. They would just change weapons.
On to another obfuscation.

Theoretically one might be able to make something chemical that could be dangerous. More likely though they might blow themselves up trying to do so.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Very true, companies changed their production line and nothing really changed. Many point to the assault weapons ban as a failure but in reality it was weak legislation we need something stronger to keep guns like this out of peoples hands.
Many people are wrong. And it apparently did work.

But you are right--the ban did not go far enough and semi-automatics with large magazines were still available and used for mass shootings, but not banned because as Betsy DeVos said, you never know when a grizzly bear is going to attack a school.

https://politicalviolenceataglance.o...ass-shootings/
 
Old 02-15-2018, 02:04 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The so-called "gun control" advocates have spent the last several decades proving (inadvertently) that their half measures do not work. "Assault weapons" bans, waiting periods, "gun free" zones, background checks, and all the rest rarely reduce the crime rate, and often result in an increase instead. And yet they keep coming back and saying we need "just a little more" of their "reasonable restrictions".

When they point to countries whose results they like, they invariably point to places like England, Japan, Australia, etc. - countries that have almost completely banned guns from their subjects.

Take the hint.

In fact, complete bans of all guns are the only things that have ever reduced "gun crimes". And they must be accompanied by ruthless confiscation. Advocates who say they want "just some reasonable regulations", know by now they won't work. The only thing they could now be intending, is an eventual complete ban on all guns. While pretending they will do only just a little, to fool you into going along with "just a little". And then next year, just a little more.

Their total gun bans must be accompanied by SWAT teams going door to door to every house and apartment in America, taking people's guns whether they want to give them up or not. They know that many people will object to giving up their guns voluntarily... but a gun ban won't work unless everybody turns in their guns.

Advocates who say they want a few "reasonable regulations", are either astonishingly ignorant of the results of their own policies, or are lying to you.
The solution is right there already written for all to see.
You have a choice. A choice government cannot deny you of. You have the right to defend yourself by keeping and bearing arms.
If someone else choices not to be able to defend themselves, they have no right to tell me I can't.

The 2nd amendment is the solution to evil and oppression.
Their solution is to make everyone easier prey.
Case in point: Coloumbine Colo. and Yesterday, 3:00pm Parkland Fla.
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