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Old 11-29-2017, 07:04 PM
 
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yall want to be victims so bad. lol.


Also, hate crimes motivated by race against whites...sounds exactly like what happened in Charlottesville. A white person killing another white person, with racial motivation. Sounds like yall need to have a sit down with each other.
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Old 11-29-2017, 07:11 PM
 
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49% of that increase in racially motivated hate crimes were crimes committed against whites. [/b]
also, make sure you all read OP's words carefully. 49% OF THE INCREASE in racial incidents were against whites. That doesn't mean whites were 49% of the victims.




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Racial/Ethnicity/Ancestry bias (Based on Table 1.)


Among single-bias hate crime incidents in 2016, there were 4,426 victims of race/ethnicity/ancestry motivated hate crime.
  • 50.2 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-Black or African American bias.
  • 20.5 percent were victims of anti-White bias.
  • 10.9 percent were victims of anti-Hispanic or Latino bias.
  • 4.3 percent were victims of bias against a group of individuals in which more than one race was represented (anti-multiple races, group).
  • 3.8 percent were victims of anti-American Indian or Alaska Native bias.
  • 3.1 percent were victims of anti-Asian bias.
  • 1.3 percent were victims of anti-Arab bias.
  • 0.2 percent (9 individuals) were victims of anti-Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander bias.
  • 5.7 percent were victims of anti-Other Race/Ethnicity/Ancestry bias.
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:07 PM
 
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also, make sure you all read OP's words carefully. 49% OF THE INCREASE in racial incidents were against whites. That doesn't mean whites were 49% of the victims.
You seem to avoid this nugget of the offenders.

In 2016, race was reported for 5,770 known hate crime offenders. Of these offenders:

46.3 percent were white.

26.1 percent were black or African American.

Once again, whites are under represented in the offender category and blacks are over represented
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:12 PM
 
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Seems like most of the hate crimes are committed by a member of the group the crime supposedly targets.
Not really but feel free to cite your example instead of making vague claims.
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:18 PM
 
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Well, it's clear that when there's a lack of real problems in someone's life all that's left is shouting at CNN. "Damn you, pop culture!"
Well, it is fair to say that pop culture actually does contribute to the stereotype of black men as thieves and gang members. It seems that many areas of this country don’t have a lot of black people so the white people who live there only see black people in pop culture and the news.
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Old 11-30-2017, 07:01 AM
 
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You seem to avoid this nugget of the offenders.

In 2016, race was reported for 5,770 known hate crime offenders. Of these offenders:

46.3 percent were white.

26.1 percent were black or African American.

Once again, whites are under represented in the offender category and blacks are over represented
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whites still own a plurality. Blacks are still over represented as victims. Even when you factor in the black-hoaxes, blacks still see too many real hate crimes. Why do you want to be victims so bad?
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:25 AM
 
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Lol, after I build a logical case and explanation....instead of engaging me in debate I instead get a "rep" calling me racist.

Yep, when you're absolutely shut down, calling someone racist and running away is a common strategy here.
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:35 AM
 
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You seem to avoid this nugget of the offenders.

In 2016, race was reported for 5,770 known hate crime offenders. Of these offenders:

46.3 percent were white.

26.1 percent were black or African American.

Once again, whites are under represented in the offender category and blacks are over represented
.
Yes, I discussed this earlier and noted that the inclusion of variables like poverty which links to crime, can explain why you see the higher rates of "hate crimes", even though the propensity for racism might be higher in the white population.

Basically, if white guy A is racist but works as an accountant, it's unlikely they'd ever engage in something that would count as a hate crime even though they hold racist views.

Now if white guy A was poor and liked to mug people etc. then it's possible that they're going to do something criminal during which their racist views might manifest either in targeting or execution of the crime thus creating a hate crime.

In other words, I believe the ratios above don't represent the %'s of racist attitudes but rather reflect the social impacts of poverty\crime.
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:19 AM
 
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whites still own a plurality. Blacks are still over represented as victims. Even when you factor in the black-hoaxes, blacks still see too many real hate crimes. Why do you want to be victims so bad?

LOL...."Own a plurality"....Not hard or surprising when white people are still a MAJORITY (and significantly so, depending on how a white Latino/Hispanic is categorized).


You would expect, in a non-perfect perfect scenario, that whites would perpetrate crimes at rates EQUAL to their representation in the population. We should expect crime stats to ALWAYS be in line with representation in society. When it's NOT in line with demographics, THEN it points to a problem.


Indeed, if you were to believe minorities and the left, you'd expect white people to be responsible for the VAST MAJORITY of hate crimes. Or that they'd at least be OVER-REPRESENTED.

But they're not. Who is? Black people. Is that Trump's fault too? Maybe Shaun King should pen an expose, inbetween his tanning sessions. Maybe Ta-Nehesi Coates can write a pretentious essay on the subject, finding a way to relate it to slavery or Jim Crow.


I even posted the link to "The Root" article that shows how deep the victim pathology is in many minority communities and leftist circles so desperate to develop the narrative that white people are attacking them (official stats be damned). "White people are the majority of hate crime perpetrators!" the ROOT so breathlessly reported to its low-IQ readers who lack basic statistical reasoning. Better watch out for them wipipo! Though they're statistically less likely to commit hate crimes, they're out to get ya!!!!

So the point is, while the left and minorities are peddling a FALSE VICTIMIZATION FANTASY of white people on the rampage of hate (especially since 2016, as the narrative goes!), that is WRONG. Absolutely WRONG.



White people have been committing less and less hate crimes year over year for a number of years now. And the stats are now showing that a full 50% of the INCREASE in race-based hate crimes is actually coming from an increase in crimes AGAINST WHITE PEOPLE.
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:25 AM
 
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LOL...."Own a plurality"....Not hard or surprising when white people are still a MAJORITY (and significantly so, depending on how a white Latino/Hispanic is categorized).


You would expect, in a non-perfect perfect scenario, that whites would perpetrate crimes at rates EQUAL to their representation in the population. We should expect crime stats to ALWAYS be in line with representation in society. When it's NOT in line with demographics, THEN it points to a problem.


Indeed, if you were to believe minorities and the left, you'd expect white people to be responsible for the VAST MAJORITY of hate crimes. Or that they'd at least be OVER-REPRESENTED.

But they're not. Who is? Black people. Is that Trump's fault too?


I even posted the link to "The Root" article that shows how deep the victimology pathology is in minority communities so desperate to develop the narrative that white people are attacking them (official stats be damned). "White people are the majority of hate crime perpetrators!" the ROOT so breathlessly reported to its low-IQ readers who lack basic statistical reasoning. Better watch out for them wipipo! Though they're statistically less likely to commit hate crimes, they're out to get ya!!!!

So the point is, while the left and minorities are peddling a FALSE VICTIMIZATION FANTASY of white people on the rampage of hate (especially since 2016, as the narrative goes!), that is WRONG. Absolutely WRONG.



White people have been committing less and less hate crimes year over year for a number of years now. And the stats are now showing that a full 50% of the INCREASE in race-based hate crimes is actually coming from an increase in crimes AGAINST WHITE PEOPLE.
you make a post trying to make whites the poster children of race-victimhood, then get mad when I point out exactly what you're intention was. LMAO. You even tried to cherry pick stats and use suggestive language with the "49% of the increase" mess. LOL. Have a nice day.
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