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Old 12-10-2017, 09:56 PM
 
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Only when SCOTUS Justices violate the Oath they've taken to uphold the Constitution. And they should be impeached for violating that Oath.

Tell me where, in the following, in Article VI, the US Constitution says "only extends to a certain point."

"This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding."

Contrary to your absurd assertion, it actually very specifically states: "ANYTHING in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding."

ANYTHING.

All rights extend only so far. Your right to exercise your religious beliefs does not include having sex with children.
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Old 12-10-2017, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Hate to say it-but there is no such thing as "legal" weed. Still illegal at the federal level, and those laws apply to every state in this country. Only question is will the executive branch do there job and enforce the law, or not? Stupid law, but it needs to be changed in congress, not for the states, or the president, to just pretend it doesn't exist.
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Old 12-11-2017, 12:49 AM
 
Location: My House
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I don't think the majority of the citizenry care whether or not weed is legal, but there are plenty who do want it legalized.

The tides have turned a good bit in this regard.
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Old 12-11-2017, 01:11 AM
 
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Make all the laws you like for the dedicated pot smoker weed will remain abundant and easy to get.
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Old 12-11-2017, 03:52 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The legal basis for the Controlled Substances Act is the Commerce Clause, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution, which gives Congress the power “to regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes.” Most controlled substances are imported from other countries or states, or the precursor substances are. Marijuana can be grown and packaged for sale within the boundaries of any state. It's the same reason you can legally grow the opium poppy anywhere in the US.

I'm sure they could dance around it and find a law that would stick, but the CSA is pretty weak if the states really decide to challenge it. There are enough states involved in recreational pot, not to speak of medical pot, that they could afford a serious legal challenge to the feds.
They could try to challenge it, but the US Constitution's Supremacy Clause is pretty clear. Federal law enacted via Constitutionally prescribed procedure supercedes any state law.

"This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding."

SCOTUS Justices have sworn an Oath to uphold the US Constitution. That includes the Supremacy Clause in Article VI. It's why DC lost in DC v. Heller.

What needs to happen is for Congress (with or without POTUS, as overriding a veto allows - Article I, Section 7) to enact a federal law to legalize marijuana at the federal level.
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Old 12-11-2017, 04:07 AM
 
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All rights extend only so far. Your right to exercise your religious beliefs does not include having sex with children.
Again, as I've explained multiple times, the US Congress needs to legislate an inclusion of LGBT to the classes protected under the Federal CRA. So far, members of both parties, whichever has been in power, have declined to do so over several attempts. That's a problem LGBT activists/advocates must resolve, but they've so far been unable to do so.

Having sex, etc., with children is a Federal offense under multiple Federal statutes:

18 U.S.C. § 2241– Aggravated sexual abuse
18 U.S.C. § 2242– Sexual abuse
18 U.S.C. § 2243– Sexual abuse of a minor or ward
18 U.S.C. § 2244– Abusive sexual contact

Remember, Federal law is elevated to the equivalency of Constitutional Rights in the US Constitution's Supremacy Clause (Article VI). At that point, if a challenge is presented between Constitutional Rights and Federal law enacted as prescribed by the US Constitution, a SCOTUS ruling is the ultimate determiner.
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Old 12-11-2017, 04:08 AM
 
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Hate to say it-but there is no such thing as "legal" weed. Still illegal at the federal level, and those laws apply to every state in this country. Only question is will the executive branch do there job and enforce the law, or not? Stupid law, but it needs to be changed in congress, not for the states, or the president, to just pretend it doesn't exist.
Bingo.
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Old 12-11-2017, 06:10 AM
 
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Having sex, etc., with children is a Federal offense under multiple Federal statutes:

18 U.S.C. § 2241– Aggravated sexual abuse
18 U.S.C. § 2242– Sexual abuse
18 U.S.C. § 2243– Sexual abuse of a minor or ward
18 U.S.C. § 2244– Abusive sexual contact
Laws are meaningless to a cult whose messiah has laid out the plan for his gullible followers,
Moore will be elected.
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Old 12-11-2017, 06:14 AM
 
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Laws are meaningless to a cult whose messiah has laid out the plan for his gullible followers,
Moore will be elected.
Federal law is Federal law. If there's sufficient proof that he's guilty of what has been alleged, charge him.
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Old 12-11-2017, 06:26 AM
 
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I don't think the majority of the citizenry care whether or not weed is legal, but there are plenty who do want it legalized.

The tides have turned a good bit in this regard.
The primary concern is WHERE people are getting their pot...who is profiting, right now, the cartels profit with it being illegal, law enforcement also benefits, as its a law alot of people are willing to consistently break, meaning more people they can arrest, its no wonder LE wants it to remain illegal, its job security for them. Its the same reason why they went after opioid drugs, when addicts could get their fix from a doctor, totally legal, pharma was reaping all the profits...cartels didnt like that and ensured laws were put in place so addicts were forced to come to them for these drugs, its a business like any other.


I truly believe DEA and other law enforcement agencies are in collusion with the drug cartels, and/or are their lobbying arm in the US, it makes sense when you think about it. Everything these agencies do, benefits the cartels business.
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