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Old 12-19-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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For the last god-damned time: YOUR BELIEFS are not being INFRINGED UPON when a company, a store, or even the government says, "Merry Christmas" or chooses to recognize a particular holiday.


You can complain that your *own* beliefs or holidays are not celebrated or recognized, but that's different than saying your beliefs are OFFENDED by someone else recognizing and celebrating a holiday that you don't celebrate.

If you're forced to say a prayer to a god you don't believe in, or if you're forced to worship... THAT is offending someone's religion or beliefs (or lack thereof). It is NOT offensive to just SEE Christmas decorations or going to a "Christmas" party in the workplace, as long as it doesn't involve praying to baby Jesus.



If you worship Odin or celebrate Diwali, and are the only one in the office that does so.... how about working with management to maybe set aside an afternoon or lunch time where you can share your own traditions? Rather than making things boring and awful for the NINETY TWO PERCENT of Americans who DO celebrate Christmas in some form.
For the last god-damned time: Companies can call their year-end parties whatever they want. It's not offending you if they choose to call it a holiday party or a year-end party or whatever. If you are offended by them calling it something than other than a Christmas party, then you need to pull up your big-boy pants and stop whining about it. Their company, their organization, their choice.

 
Old 12-19-2017, 12:32 PM
 
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And so in the end, we can all agree that "avoidance of OFFENSE" is the goal. Because Americans have become a bunch of soft ******* OFFENDED by everything.
"War on Christmas" became a hot topic because a bunch of Christians lost their stuff over "Happy Holidays", so...
 
Old 12-19-2017, 01:24 PM
 
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I say whatever I please, including using the "n" word with co-workers which is routinely done in my department in a joking context.
You work in the warehouse I take it?
 
Old 12-19-2017, 02:28 PM
 
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Maybe your joy of life has been sucked out, but not by people who invite others to holiday parties.

Can you explain why, as an atheist, it's more enjoyable for you to attend a Christmas party rather than a holiday party? Same food. Same drinks. Same people.

It's simply language policing, which is tyranny.

Even in the most PC environments everyone knows a "holiday party" is an HR concoction. In the context of the OP and the example cited, it actually is a kill-joy meant to preserve the sensibilities and feelings of the most pathetic and whiny of any group.

Call it a holiday party, and the people - even the Jews - will talk about the upcoming Christmas party, Christmas bonus, etc. Scolding language nannies such as yourself and PC culturalists make excuses for absurd behavior.
 
Old 12-19-2017, 03:09 PM
 
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It's simply language policing, which is tyranny.

Even in the most PC environments everyone knows a "holiday party" is an HR concoction. In the context of the OP and the example cited, it actually is a kill-joy meant to preserve the sensibilities and feelings of the most pathetic and whiny of any group.

Call it a holiday party, and the people - even the Jews - will talk about the upcoming Christmas party, Christmas bonus, etc. Scolding language nannies such as yourself and PC culturalists make excuses for absurd behavior.
It's not tyranny.

It's a business or organization trying to be inclusive.

The whiners are people like you who can't answer a simple question like what makes a Christmas party better than a holiday party when it's the same food, same drinks, same people? What makes it better? You never answered before, so please answer now.
 
Old 12-19-2017, 03:17 PM
 
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For the last god-damned time: Companies can call their year-end parties whatever they want. It's not offending you if they choose to call it a holiday party or a year-end party or whatever. If you are offended by them calling it something than other than a Christmas party, then you need to pull up your big-boy pants and stop whining about it. Their company, their organization, their choice.
So basically yield to the PC world or else. Not going to happen, we will fight this nonsense where we see it. We hate PC and hate those trying to remake our society into this twisted ideal liberals have. We are digging in, we won the election and most Americans hate all this PC. These companies only do this as a means to avoid you lefties sueing and boycotting them. You make it sound as if the obey PC as if it’s thier will to be PC. They are acting in fear of left wing legal tactics. Don’t expect us to respect that.
 
Old 12-19-2017, 03:29 PM
 
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Commenting on the state of society, and being offended are two TOTALLY different things. It seems the nuances of debate, and discussion escape you.
Another who is perpetually offended. I suggest finding a real job.
 
Old 12-19-2017, 03:41 PM
 
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"Christmas became a Federal holiday in 1870 when it became obvious that Christmas was good for business,"

WOW! Talk about revisionist history!
What's revisionist about it?

That's when congress declared it a federal holiday.
https://www.reference.com/holidays-c...60b25250f0c787
http://www.thehistoryofchristmas.com/ch/in_america.htm
 
Old 12-19-2017, 03:49 PM
 
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So basically yield to the PC world or else. Not going to happen, we will fight this nonsense where we see it. We hate PC and hate those trying to remake our society into this twisted ideal liberals have. We are digging in, we won the election and most Americans hate all this PC. These companies only do this as a means to avoid you lefties sueing and boycotting them. You make it sound as if the obey PC as if it’s thier will to be PC. They are acting in fear of left wing legal tactics. Don’t expect us to respect that.
There's no yielding to the PC world.

There's no government dictating what to call a party.

Businesses deciding for themselves on policies around holidays. Isn't that the way things are supposed to be? They aren't acting in fear. The "lefties" aren't the boogeyman. Grow up.
 
Old 12-19-2017, 04:02 PM
 
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There's no yielding to the PC world.

There's no government dictating what to call a party.

Businesses deciding for themselves on policies around holidays. Isn't that the way things are supposed to be? They aren't acting in fear. The "lefties" aren't the boogeyman. Grow up.
Your right it’s not government dictates mandating PC, it’s private corporate interest being used to implement political correctness. They do this to protect themselves from your lawsuits and boycotting. Corporations see it as cheaper to placate left wing crybabies than it is to fight them. They even now police private after hours political and social media behavior in some cases. The left has found a legal way to silence me and usurp my right of free speech. They also have a captive partner in corporate America to indoctrinate me with HR driven PC rhetoric. I have suggested new state laws in previous post that protect employees fro discipline or termination for expressing political views after hours and protection from being disciplined for social media activities. Also corporations should not be allowed promote political or social positions to employees who are on the clock. Laws like this would free employers from the clutches of these un American leftist and restore free speech, closing the back door used to restrict it.

If this were done the PC infiltration into the corporate world would evaporate overnight. Your posts show your lack of appreciation for freedom and your refusal to respect the culture and will of the majority. Thinking like yours is so very dangerous to everything we value in America.
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