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I gotta say, this really does tickle my funny bone.
I don't blame the priest, and think the parents need a little soul searching, for a number of reasons.
1. According to the bible, even the smallest of lies is a sin.
2. Santa is NOT what the season is about (neither is gift giving, christmas tress, egg nog, love songs about how cold it is, etc)
3. Santa and gift giving represents a commercialization of a very serious religious holiday.
People just love to go around telling others to remember the reason for the season, and keep Christ in Christmas.....but then get made if their children are told that a man made construct that has nothing to do with christmas is not real. Even if it's coming from a priest...you know, the guys you'd expect to be all about honesty and sticking to the real reasons behind christmas.
well, like I said,
The very bottom line is just that, it's not right to destroy childrens' dreams and it's not their place to do so. Priest or public school teachers, make no difference.
The very bottom line is just that, it's not right to destroy childrens' dreams and it's not their place to do so. Priest or public school teachers, make no difference.
What about TV, movies, commercials, stores, etc?
First, a teacher was crossing the line. Now, even a priest needs to lie, in order to avoid crossing this line (strange that we'd expect a priest to keep up a facade that goes against what he preaches).
So what's next? TV and movies cross the line? Stores that decorate and advertise for parents to buy gifts for their children for christmas?
I just want to understand all of this. Do everyone need to keep from crossing some imaginary line (boundary if you will), just to avoid pissing off a very small group of people because their children still believe in santa (although most in that age bracket no longer believe).
And, you said it wasn't about santa per-se, but about boundaries....so we don't cross these boundaries either for the tooth fairy, easter bunny...or even mickey mouse (as someone mentioned). So, I gotta ask, do teachers, priest, tv, movies, commercials, books, stores ect....that let's any of those cats out the bag....are they all going to far and crossing the lines?
Considering how poorly kids test these days, I would think they wouldn't be discussing Santa at all. Homeschooling grows more popular everyday, only 36% of parents homeschool for religious or moral reasons. Sadly, this isn't the worst of what kids will hear in school.
An accurate fact in public school? That is kind of funny really as that might be one of the few accurate facts the kids will learn in school these days.
There are conversations that school employees should avoid, Santa is one of many that they need to keep their traps shut about!
The best public schools destroy homeschooling when it comes to acceptances at top universities.
The very bottom line is just that, it's not right to destroy childrens' dreams and it's not their place to do so. Priest or public school teachers, make no difference.
Best that priest just kept his conversation about hell.
First, a teacher was crossing the line. Now, even a priest needs to lie, in order to avoid crossing this line (strange that we'd expect a priest to keep up a facade that goes against what he preaches).
So what's next? TV and movies cross the line? Stores that decorate and advertise for parents to buy gifts for their children for christmas?
I just want to understand all of this. Do everyone need to keep from crossing some imaginary line (boundary if you will), just to avoid pissing off a very small group of people because their children still believe in santa (although most in that age bracket no longer believe).
And, you said it wasn't about santa per-se, but about boundaries....so we don't cross these boundaries either for the tooth fairy, easter bunny...or even mickey mouse (as someone mentioned). So, I gotta ask, do teachers, priest, tv, movies, commercials, books, stores ect....that let's any of those cats out the bag....are they all going to far and crossing the lines?
of course it is a fact but it is also a magical time for families, mom and dads as well as the kids.
Actually, for many people, it's not a magical time. For instance, the suicide rate goes up. That's no reason for you or anyone else to stop enjoying Christmas, but insisting that it's a magical time for all is a real distortion of reality. Kinda like insisting that everyone pretend that Santa exists.
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Originally Posted by nmnita
If, for whatever reason a family does not want their kids to believe in Santa that is their choice, but my point though I guess I didn't put it correctly was the teacher was out of place. She really had no business saying anything. If some child has asked her she should have said, gee I just don't really know. Ask you mommy and daddy or something similar. I don't remember, from seeing the video that any of the kids asked her about Santa.
Maybe. But I learned many things in school that my parents didn't know, and a few things that my parents told me contravened what they called "common sense". They were, in fact, wrong. Now I knew, from an early age, that my parents, through no fault of their own, had substandard educations. I never blamed for that. But I did blame them for refusing to grapple with knowledge that was new to them. My growing realization that I could not rely on them for objective facts had detrimental effects on our relationship that never healed.
Children are quite adept at playing "let's pretend", knowing full well what reality is. They're right - it's fun. There's nothing harmful at all about joining in a mass "let's pretend" game about Santa. There is something very wrong though about an adult that makes a big deal about insisting on controlling her child's belief in Santa.
I actually think that a child being upset about finding out that Santa isn't real presents a great learning opportunity. A parent could explain how something/someone that isn't objectively real can nevertheless signify an important emotional truth. Or a parent might teach her children that from Day 1 - Santa isn't real the way that Uncle Leonard is real, but Santa is real because he's a way for us to teach, learn, and express generosity.
So, she felt it was her job to break the child from their innocents.
I seriously don't know how I would have handled that, had it happened to our daughter while she was still young and innocent. I may have wound up in jail over it in this Communist Progressive place I live in mostly.
The best public schools destroy homeschooling when it comes to acceptances at top universities.
Of coarse, they have not had the prerequisite, indoctrination into Communism.
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