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Yes 229 48.21%
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Old 01-15-2018, 12:10 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The very idea that a president would send children of fleeing migrant parents back to some country that they know next to nothing about seems unusually cruel and harsh to me. I'm most certain that if these were the offspring of Norwegian or Swedish parents, these DACA people would already be considered as welcomed and honored American citizens.

BTW

We don't need to spend another dollar on the military. Haven't we wasted enough money over stockpiling every variety of weaponry? Haven't we killed enough? With our massive kill power, a country would be quite foolish to attack us!

Besides, with so many nuclear weapons and nuclear technology possessed by so many countries, I'd say we humans have evolved to a point where the idea of WAR has become obsolete.

Let's instead turn our international and collective attention to cleaning up our global environment. Let's save our oceans, rivers, and lakes. Let's clean up our air so that our children won't have to wear masks, just to venture outdoors....
Obama created this mess with his illegal DACA "decree." Congress refused to pass DACA so Obama did it illegally.

We don't accept people "fleeing." We have legal means for entering the United States.

You're assumption is incorrect. President Trump is trying to restore law and order after Obama created chaos. This is on Obama, not President Trump.

As for the military, the main purpose of the Federal Government is to provide for the common defense. Our military in recent years has been deteriorating, and we have planes that are not even able to fly for lack of parts. That too, is on Obama. The military has been cut to the bone in recent years, and needs to be rebuilt in order to provide adequate defense. We spend money on things never authorized by the Constitution.

You may think war is obsolete. Tell that to our enemies. it's too bad not everyone has that concept. You're very naive.

 
Old 01-15-2018, 02:54 PM
 
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Durbin and Graham are standing by their accounts of what was said in that meeting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/senato...emark?ref=home
 
Old 01-15-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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"Conservative columnist Erick Erickson said Trump was calling friends to brag about the “****hole” remark, saying it would play well to his base."

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b04f3c55a526e4

Well, what do you know.
 
Old 01-15-2018, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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"Conservative columnist Erick Erickson said Trump was calling friends to brag about the “****hole” remark, saying it would play well to his base."

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b04f3c55a526e4

Well, what do you know.
Yep and here's even more on that:

Donald Trump said 's***house' and not 's***hole', claims White House source

"The Post‘s White House reporter, Josh Dawsey, said a White House official had told him there was a debate “internally” about the word used, with two senators – Republicans David Perdue and Tom Cotton – saying they had heard the latter.

And Rich Lowry, editor of the conservative National Review magazine, told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos: “My understanding from the meeting [is] he used a different but very closely related vulgarity.

“He said ‘s-house’ and not ‘s-hole’. That’s not going to make a difference to anyone. But the general remarks, yes, he said them.”

Referring to “s***hole”, Mr Perdue said on Friday that he and Mr Cotton “do not recall the President saying these comments specifically”.

Donald Trump said 's***house' and not 's***hole', claims White House source | The Independent
 
Old 01-15-2018, 04:12 PM
 
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"Conservative columnist Erick Erickson said Trump was calling friends to brag about the “****hole” remark, saying it would play well to his base."

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b04f3c55a526e4

Well, what do you know.
Figures. President Poopy Pants needed another stroke from his base. Awwww...
 
Old 01-15-2018, 05:09 PM
 
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Obama created this mess with his illegal DACA "decree." Congress refused to pass DACA so Obama did it illegally.

We don't accept people "fleeing." We have legal means for entering the United States.

You're assumption is incorrect. President Trump is trying to restore law and order after Obama created chaos. This is on Obama, not President Trump.

As for the military, the main purpose of the Federal Government is to provide for the common defense. Our military in recent years has been deteriorating, and we have planes that are not even able to fly for lack of parts. That too, is on Obama. The military has been cut to the bone in recent years, and needs to be rebuilt in order to provide adequate defense. We spend money on things never authorized by the Constitution.

You may think war is obsolete. Tell that to our enemies. it's too bad not everyone has that concept. You're very naive.
President Obama attempted to give temporary relief to the some 800, 000 children of these undocumented immigrants, but congress refused to cooperate, causing undue and totally unnecessary stress to these young mostly ambitious and intelligent Americans.

For some "strange" reason congress sustained an ongoing negative response to most of Obama's suggestions, directives, and requests. This is how his infamous Syrian "line in the sand" quote became a noted weak point of his presidency.

This DACA mess has absolutely nothing to do with President Obama. If these people were the offspring of Norwegian or Swedish undocumented migrants, then special measures would have been taken to assure valid citizenship to not only the children, but also the undocumented migrant parents of these unfortunate children. I'm most certain that Trump would have bent over backwards to welcome white undocumented immigrants with opened arms because he's an unrepentant racist.

Additionally, President Obama continued to waste money on the Pentagon and its ridiculous military budget just like all the rest of the presidents do during anytime the U.S. is at war. At no time during his presidency were we at "bare bones" in military equipment or personnel due to under funding.

Currently, there are 8 declared countries with nuclear power weaponry (three are undeclared).
Each country has enough nukes within their arsenals to blow the entire earth up into utter smithereens within minutes. If you know anything about human nature in general (mainly our propensity for greed) and men's egos in particular( mainly our thirst for power, domination, conquest, violence, etc), then you also know that nuclear power in our hands is a fool's folly.

Human DNA contains far too many errant idiot genes.

No this Vietnam Veteran is cured of war!

Let's instead turn our attention to truth derived from the Scientific Method, Responsible Stewardship of the planet, and a more global approach to resolving political controversies.

As long as we humans have brains, we should always seek out a viable alternative to WAR!
 
Old 01-15-2018, 05:18 PM
 
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Critics of Trump aren't really debating whether or not Haiti is a sh!thole, they know it is. They just want to use this as an opportunity to call him a racist.
And, yet... if he hadn't said such a thing, there wouldn't be this opportunity to call him a racist. Well, there are all the other times he said racist things, but that's old news at this point.
 
Old 01-15-2018, 05:24 PM
 
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What would you call someone who makes public that which is said in a closed door meeting not meant for public ears? Would you trust such a person?
a whistleblower.

And, you know, somebody told on what clinton and lewinsky were doing in a private meeting. Guess they shouldn't have, right? We would all be so much better off if we never knew what went on in those meetings.
 
Old 01-15-2018, 05:26 PM
 
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Really? Is that why the Democrats want open borders and to allow all those people from wherever, no matter their skills (or lack thereof) or whether or not they may be criminals, to enter this country?
Your premise is incorrect. Prove that democrats want what you said. We'll wait.

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Old 01-15-2018, 05:29 PM
 
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For those seeking mission trips to Sweden or Italy, this should get you started:

https://www.teenmissions.org/2015/09...s-trip-sweden/

https://www.omusa.org/areas/country/sweden

Italy Mission Trips :: ShortTermMissions.com

Good luck.
Just looked at that last one for Italy. Wow, those sound like great summer camp ideas!
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