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Old 01-13-2018, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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It happens here in Texas - police departments have been criticized for handing mentally ill people a one-way bus ticket to my city, Austin. And as expected, sometimes they arrive and commit crimes like murder. It happened a few years back to a poor little gal from the University of Texas; her killer had been sent to Austin via another police department.

I'm not interested in assigning blame for this bullsh*t. It's a bipartisan problem. I am only interested in learning how other countries deal with it, and how the US, despite our enormous population, might utilize these ideas to help our own.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:11 AM
 
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There is no denying that people with long-term, unmanaged mental health issues are difficult to deal with.

But you don't put a disoriented woman out in the middle of a cold night, barefoot and her a nightie.

Good Lord.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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It happens here in Texas - police departments have been criticized for handing mentally ill people a one-way bus ticket to my city, Austin. And as expected, sometimes they arrive and commit crimes like murder. It happened a few years back to a poor little gal from the University of Texas; her killer had been sent to Austin via another police department.

I'm not interested in assigning blame for this bullsh*t. It's a bipartisan problem. I am only interested in learning how other countries deal with it, and how the US, despite our enormous population, might utilize these ideas to help our own.

Then get to work!
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Then get to work!
You're the one using this tragedy to further your own personal agenda of universal healthcare - what are you doing to solve problems like this?

For the record, I've spent this entire thread trying to determine how other countries deal with this specific issue. As of yet, nobody has been able to provide any answers.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:15 AM
 
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The first thing you do is develop trained CIT (Crisis Intervention Teams) of police officers and social workers who are available 24/7 to deal with such issues.

Respite centers.

Community mental health programs with mobile teams.

Safe, supported housing.

...

It's not rocket science, but it costs money and takes a network of dedicated people.

This is how other countries and some places in our country do it.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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The first thing you do is develop trained CIT (Crisis Intervention Teams) of police officers and social workers who are available 24/7 to deal with such issues.

Respite centers.

Community mental health programs with mobile teams.

Safe, supportive housing.

It's not rocket science, but it costs money and takes a network of dedicated people.
Respite centers are definitely something that I can stand behind. Immediate care - 24/7. Not 18 weeks from now.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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You're the one using this tragedy to further your own personal agenda of universal healthcare - what are you doing to solve problems like this?

For the record, I've spent this entire thread trying to determine how other countries deal with this specific issue. As of yet, nobody has been able to provide any answers.
I can tell you that:
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Medicaid is the single largest payer for mental health services in the United States and provides coverage for millions of Americans with mental health or substance abuse disorders.
http://time.com/4829381/senate-healt...lth-insurance/

We DO NOT want to cut funding to Medicaid or we will see more and more of these inhumane occurrences.

Either fund Medicaid biggly or get UHS.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Respite centers are definitely something that I can stand behind. Immediate care - 24/7. Not 18 weeks from now.
Funded by?
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Funded by?
That's the $100,000 question, isn't it?
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:25 AM
 
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Respite centers are definitely something that I can stand behind. Immediate care - 24/7. Not 18 weeks from now.
Respite Centers are a key part of an effective "wraparound" program.

Homeless shelter would not be a good option for this woman. She needs more support than they can offer.

CIT teams are terrific. Any community that does not have such a program in place needs to get one. Police officers and community mental health workers are trained in de-escalation techniques and work together to ensure an immediate safety plan as well as follow up for long-term support.

There are CIT teams all over the nation.

Respite programs provide essential back-up and solutions for short-term safety and support.

Then long-term community mental health follow up.
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