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Unless she was originally admitted naked with no personal affects, someone robbed the woman of her possessions before dumping her into the street in a hospital gown.
One of the links refer to plastic bags containing her stuff.
She is homeless. Whatever clothing she had may have been self- soiled.
She was being released to a shelter.
Most shelters decline obvious mentally ill guests.
I think both sides of this argument are right. People that can't care for themselves need both social services and family. You can set up all the services you want and will still have lost people if there is no family to help them navigate the system.
Seeing things as a conservative I agree there needs to be social services for helpless people, but also think there are so many out on the street because the idea of family has disintegrated. This woman is someones mother, sister, aunt or whatever. Where is everybody?
I think both sides of this argument are right. People that can't care for themselves need both social services and family. You can set up all the services you want and will still have lost people if there is no family to help them navigate the system.
Seeing things as a conservative I agree there needs to be social services for helpless people, but also think there are so many out on the street because the idea of family has disintegrated. This woman is someones mother, sister, aunt or whatever. Where is everybody?
She's 22 years old and the mother has been trying to get guardianship (mother says so in one of the news links).
Until the mother gets control this 22 year old is an adult and able to make her own decisions in the eyes of the law. HIPPA in the medical field will prevent her mother from finding anything out.
She had belongings which were dumped beside her at the bus stop (would see this if you had watched the video). Doesn't matter what precipitated the dump. Dumping a mentally ill woman off in only a hospital gown at a bus stop in below freezing temps during the night is just wrong!
I agree it's wrong.
She was reportedly being transferred to a shelter. Most shelters decline obviously mentally ill guests.
She had belongings which were dumped beside her at the bus stop (would see this if you had watched the video). Doesn't matter what precipitated the dump. Dumping a mentally ill woman off in only a hospital gown at a bus stop in below freezing temps during the night is just wrong!
I'm not sure if I've seen the full video or not. But someone else mentioned her belongings were with her. I didn't see anything like that in the little video the news showed which might have been edited short. Still wrong to dump her out like that though.
Yup you are correct. In the eyes of the law she is an adult.
I don't think this is what people envisioned all those years ago when they set the mentally ill free.
I found this...in 1984 they were saying the policy change was a failure.
In the 30 years since it's only gotten harder to get legal control over a mentally ill adult.
Problem was that mental facilities could see dollar signs around anyone admitted. Corruption happened. People were kept there that shouldn't have been because it is in that facilities best interest to have patients. This is why laws changed. It happens today in group homes still. I have known it to happen with people I know. If you place someone in a home and it doesn't seem to be working out for the individual the people running the facility may fight you on removing them. They don't want to lose the money. We had people falling through the cracks in the other direction, but they were locked up rather than out on the street.
A lot of homeless people who are drug addicts and alcoholics refuse help. They like being out in the open, drinking and shooting up with their friends, no responsibilities, begging for cash and getting free food. That is what they themselves say.
The mentally ill are a different case. Should be locked up for their own safety and the safety of the public. Abandoned warehouses and other buildings in undesirable areas can be converted cheaply into barebones accommodation. I think Big Pharma is behind the movement to let them wander free while charging states a fortune. Money better spent on the above-mentioned secure housing.
Problem was that mental facilities could see dollar signs around anyone admitted. Corruption happened. People were kept there that shouldn't have been because it is in that facilities best interest to have patients. This is why laws changed. It happens today in group homes still. I have known it to happen with people I know. If you place someone in a home and it doesn't seem to be working out for the individual the people running the facility may fight you on removing them. They don't want to lose the money. We had people falling through the cracks in the other direction, but they were locked up rather than out on the street.
There are mentally ill people walking around today that cannot take care of themselves.
There are people that do need to be institutionalized for their own good and safety.
And there are others who would have legal guardians if the system was working the way the laws intended.
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