Trump attempted to fire Mueller June 2017 but blocked by McGahn (independent, KKK)

[ColoradoOnMyMind]

Originally Posted by Spottednikes

So the pres thought about doing something and sought legal counsel, and followed their advice, and didn't do it...why is this even a story? Oh...NYT...that explains it.

Exactly.

We're in 2018 now and on to actual real issues like taxes, immigration and infrastructure.

Mueller and team can let us know when they find definitive evidence of collusion. Until then don't waste our time with the joke charge of "obstruction" that will have zero consequence. In the mean time we should continue to monitor the FBI and look if any corruption has taken place that led up to the investigation. The FBI isn't above the law and incorruptible as the Democrats want you to believe.

[Icy Tea]

Mueller will wish he had been fired when he gets sentenced for treason.

[hbdwihdh378y9]

Originally Posted by pbmaise

Good summary from Richard W. Painter, a professor at the University of Minnesota Law School as to:

1. Why Trump cannot fire Mueller
2. Why Trump's actions were illegal

Of course all those posting here that it is a nothing burger and Trump was within his rights are law professors too.

Source: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/2....html?referer=

Paywall, but thanks for the laugh.

[Enigma777]

Originally Posted by pbmaise

So Love?

Do you believe Fox News and Hannity?

They say Trump lied to America and really tried to fire Mueller.

Oh right it is a nothing burger and Mueller was obviously biased against Trump because Trump jacked up that golf membership fee.

Pretty funny that Trump's screaming Fake News to the entire world from Davos, while his boy Hannity over here at state news is confirming it is true.

Hannity might not get invited to fun times at Maralago after this.

[hbdwihdh378y9]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

NYT is not backing down. They have the goods. Mueller was told about this. Trump flat out lied and now is accusing his staff that told Mueller of being liars. The lying scumball is getting in deeper and deeper.

None of this is illegal. So what?

[hbdwihdh378y9]

Originally Posted by pbmaise

Your points are accepted but require an important detail.

You cite cases where POTUS provided input as to a third party. Here we have POTUS pressing the FBI and DOJ in the interest of POTUS.

Absolutely false. Comey swore that Trump was not under investigation.

[GotHereQuickAsICould]

Robert Mueller was appointed Special Counsel and charged with a "full and thorough investigation into the Russian government's interference into the 2016 presidential election."

"Any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and any individuals associated with the Trump campaign."

"Any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation."

"If necessary and appropriate, prosecute any federal crimes that arise from the investigation."

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...r-special.html


For those who continually insist that there was no collusion, read the damn letter.

There is nothing about collusion. Nothing about Trump.

This investigation is about Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

Attempts to derail this investigation come under the heading of obstruction of justice.

If Trump hasn't committed a crime, then so be it. But somebody has.

Team Mueller is trying to get to the bottom of it.

Trump has made several attempts to derail the investigation.

Whether he was involved in the original crime or not, he and others been trying to derail the investigation.

This is obstruction of justice.

Why is this so difficult for some to comprehend?

[reed067]

Originally Posted by biggunsmallbrains

For a guy that insists he’s innocent he sure doesn’t want anyone to confirm it.

Excatly IF Trump is innocent, they who all the complaining about Muller and the investigation?

[Enigma777]

Originally Posted by Spottednikes

So the pres thought about doing something and sought legal counsel, and followed their advice, and didn't do it...why is this even a story? Oh...NYT...that explains it.

Lol--no he did not "seek legal counsel"--he told the WH Counsel to fire Mueller, and McGahn threatened to quit, so Trump unhappily backed off, afraid of obstruction charges.

[HockeyMac18]

Originally Posted by Enigma777

Lol--no he did not "seek legal counsel"--he told the WH Counsel to fire Mueller, and McGahn threatened to quit, so Trump unhappily backed off, afraid of obstruction charges.

Correct!

Gotta love the inventive spin, though.