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Nothing could be more moral than letting DACA recipients stay. Nothing could be more illogical than thinking we should remove 10 million people from the US.
Solving the immigration problem is complicated. More complicated than chanting Build the Wall....that's an example of feelings and emotions overtaking reason and justice.
Liberals have no credible moral foundation for their argument when that supposed moral foundation directly benefits them with votes. No sale.
As an aside, using appeals to empathy for political purposes always has, and will always continue to lessen your credibility in general. Not only does it come off as manipulative for purposes of self interest, and not only does it lessen the impact of such appeals when they actually need to be used for non-politicized assistance, but it makes it seems like you don't have a sound argument.
There is a morality to this nation's structure and laws that protect the labor pool and the political economy of the citizenry. You want us to flout that for a non-citizen population who came here illegally. You use cheap appeals to empathy to found your argument (wrapped in barbed-wire insults, which are a hallmark to every liberal argument even when it is supposedly trying to persuade).
Nothing about your argument for DACA people seems less than self-interested and manipulative. Nothing about your appeal to self-interested morality is credible.
How full our the places were unwanted kids are taking care off , waiting and DREAMING of the day a new parent will show up to give them a forever home!
A homeless VETERAN waiting and DREAMING of a better future.
All our kids that are DREAMERS of a better life than they may get right now!
DREAMERS are now called illegals who need a pass to ski the line! Legal aliens are DREAMERS too and wait in line for a long time!
More liberal/leftist rhetoric in an effort to frame the issue with images of most illegal aliens (yes that is their official name) as babies or tiny children coming to America.
Here is a news flash.
Many will claim to be tiny but came here illegally when they were adults. Still others who came here were in their teens or old enough to shave. Heck the recent rubbish Obama pulled by having trainloads of illegal OTM's flooding in showed plenty of salty looking dudes that were claiming to be under 18, but were far from it.
Another aspect you do not even touch upon are all the people who are "dreaming" of coming to America, and are patiently waiting to come here legally. They are the ones who will be penalized the most, yet they would be more likely an asset to our country than those who flaunt our laws.
This does not even address how many of these "dreamers" that the media runs stories on are skewed only from a positive perspective. For example, they do not show all the ones who are uneducated despite going to our schools, cannot even speak rudimentary English, are in prison (AZ estimates 8% of their prison population are illegal aliens), etc.
Thus the leftist Democratic agenda is promoted to sway public opinion by the complicit media. I suspect you are at least in part influenced by all the feel good stories because you are only getting one side of the story.
Have you ever considered that?
Don't be thinking most Trump voters are some heartless morons. we know the reality.
Most, especially the politically astute ones know that. But they want to try and use PC and labels to cajole members of Congress to cave, rather than potentially be unfairly stigmatized.
I'd bet you dollars to donuts they would not want to accept a Congressional solution that gave illegal aliens legal status, with it written into law that they could never become voting citizens.
This, as evidenced by the leaked memo, the Democratic power brokers believe DACA is vital to them being able to get seize power in the future.
How full our the places were unwanted kids are taking care off , waiting and DREAMING of the day a new parent will show up to give them a forever home!
A homeless VETERAN waiting and DREAMING of a better future.
All our kids that are DREAMERS of a better life than they may get right now!
DREAMERS are now called illegals who need a pass to ski the line! Legal aliens are DREAMERS too and wait in line for a long time!
Right. Then they should have no issue with doing so legally like everybody else.
Go home and apply for legal immigration like everybody else.
It's a good START. It will keep some out. Cracking down on Visa overstays would also help a ton.
What if there are other consequences? One farmer on the border said that he will lose 1000 acres of fertile farm land to the wall. It has an impact on wildlife as well. It's very expensive. Is it 100% effective? How much will it cost to maintain it?
What if that money was better spent on technology to monitor the border 24/7 instead? We have satellites that can see the whole border vs a partial wall that will drive people farther into the desert to get around or will go to the other many vulnerable places to circumvent the wall. There are also 48 places to legally cross the border from Mexico into the U.S. This is where we are more vulnerable. People enter with visa's and never leave. Do we spend that money on a wall or do we hire more people to crack down on that abuse. It will catch more people from all countries vs a few thousand stopped by a wall. People who smuggler illegals over the border in boats to cross the Rio Grand will still profit if there is a wall, so will those that smuggle people in by the truck load. Hire more people to check each and every truck entering.
I'm in favor of border security, but lets address the whole issue, and work smarter while doing so.
Children were brought here by their parents. For many this is the only home they've ever known. How cold hearted must you be to send these people back to their places of birth even though they would be adrift not knowing anyone, the language, have a job, etc.? Seriously how CRUEL of a policy is that?
Most repugnant, though all of it is disgusting, is the deportation of the men and women who served in our armed forces, put their lives on the line for US and then we tell them to get the hell out?
FOUL.
Do you actually care for our military? How many times are you on here outraged that outside most any base or post you will find homeless, downtrodden American veterans? Do you rant and rave that our own citizens, who volunteered to serve this country can’t get decent medical coverage, suffer from mental health issues, and are begging in the streets?
It is very personally offensive to me when bleeding heart liberals use the military to advance their narrative on law breakers.
What if there are other consequences? One farmer on the border said that he will lose 1000 acres of fertile farm land to the wall. It has an impact on wildlife as well. It's very expensive. Is it 100% effective? How much will it cost to maintain it?
What if that money was better spent on technology to monitor the border 24/7 instead? We have satellites that can see the whole border vs a partial wall that will drive people farther into the desert to get around or will go to the other many vulnerable places to circumvent the wall. There are also 48 places to legally cross the border from Mexico into the U.S. This is where we are more vulnerable. People enter with visa's and never leave. Do we spend that money on a wall or do we hire more people to crack down on that abuse. It will catch more people from all countries vs a few thousand stopped by a wall. People who smuggler illegals over the border in boats to cross the Rio Grand will still profit if there is a wall, so will those that smuggle people in by the truck load. Hire more people to check each and every truck entering.
I'm in favor of border security, but lets address the whole issue, and work smarter while doing so.
All it takes is for another liberal President to be elected like Obama, and everything you said goes out the window. ICE will be reduced in numbers and told to look the other way. It's happened before and it will happen again.
The wall is not a 100% solution but it's part of the big picture. All the things you mentioned are part of the solution. Unlike other things you talk about, the wall is permanent and can't be taken away by another President once it's built.
Here is the bottom line, if you, and so many other American's truly believe that the laws as they are written are wrong, elect people who will reverse them. The problem is that you KNOW, the vast majority of Americans' want them just the way they are and this is why they have never changed. Thus, you, and all the liberals have decided to "go rogue" and go around the laws and somehow, we aren't supposed to object or enforce the law because of "feelings".
Sorry, we have a process here. No more going around the laws. If you want the laws that are on the books revoked... get them revoked via congress.
But you know.. congress will never do it. Because the vast majority of Americans like them just the way that they are.
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