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Old 02-02-2018, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Dud! So now we know Trump/Putin pal Carter Page is a Russian agent who was yielding good info because his warrant was renewed three times.
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Initially, yes. The whole thing was begun by republicans looking for dirt on Trump. They gave up on it when he became the republican candidate.
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:34 PM
 
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Unintended consequences:

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Old 02-02-2018, 04:35 PM
 
Location: UK
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That has not been stated anywhere. It's apparently just Carter Page.
I believe that a TITLE I warrant allows surveillance of any organization or entity that comes into contact with the person under he warrant.

This kind of warrant gives a huge amount of leeway to tap into any communication around the person under warrant. IT's a big scope of surveillance.
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:36 PM
 
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Did the FBI use the FISA they received for Page to monitor the rest of the Trump campaign and transition team? I find it hard to believe they went through all that trouble to just monitor an insignificant volunteer on the campaign.
carter has been under observation since 2013, long before he joined the campaign.
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:38 PM
 
Location: kekistan
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How? There is nothing in the memo that points to any wrongdoing.
lol what. Guys like comey, mccabe and ohr should be in jail for lying to obtain a surveillance warrant against Trumps campaign. Fusion paid the wife of deputy associate attorney general Bruce Ohr and Ohr’s wife was employed by Fusion GPS to assist in the cultivation of opposition research on Trump.

Ohr later provides the FBI with all of his wife’s opposition research, paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign via Fusion GPS.

Yet somehow none of this is revealed to the fisa court

This whole thing if filthy and vile, wiretaps, secret courts, using intelligence agencies to spy on the trump campaign and try and destroy the opposition. This whole thing makes watergate look like childs play.

Richard Nixon’s henchmen wore gloves to avoid leaving clues for law enforcement. Barack Obama’s henchmen were law enforcement.

In third world countries and Banana Republics, the cops double as the criminals
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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Did the FBI use the FISA they received for Page to monitor the rest of the Trump campaign and transition team? I find it hard to believe they went through all that trouble to just monitor an insignificant volunteer on the campaign.
Each individual American monitored must be named within the FISA or a separate FISA issued.

Yes Page was being monitored, other people in conversations or emails with Page himself would have been recorded.

Perhaps you should remember that when picking only the very "best" people to work with.

Read up on Paul Manafort to understand the type of people Trump actually hires and look at his record of hiring and firing WH staffers.
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Using a dossier paid for by the opposition candidate, knowing it was not accurate to obtain a FISA warrant to wiretap another candidacy and withholding that information from the judge is not wrongdoing? I'm not a national security attorney; are you?

I guess we will wait and see what the attorneys say.
If any portion of it was used to get the warrant, it had been thoroughly researched and found to be true. Warrants are only issued on the presentation of hard evidence.

The opposition candidate, BTW, merely picked up where the republicans paying Fusion left off looking for dirt on Trump. It's quite possible Steele was working for fusion while republican funding was still coming in.

It is interesting that all of the other republican candidates now deny they had anything to do with it or even knew Fusion existed. BS artists, all.
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:41 PM
 
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I expect some indictments to come for FBI top (ex top)
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Did the FBI use the FISA they received for Page to monitor the rest of the Trump campaign and transition team? I find it hard to believe they went through all that trouble to just monitor an insignificant volunteer on the campaign.
Not exactly an insignificant volunteer, he was a foreign policy adviser on Trump’s presidential campaign.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ore-russia-fbi
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