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Oh, we have the technology. NSA has (and has had since at least the 80s) the technology to comb through all social media, all phone calls, all electronic communications, searching for elements that would indicate something like a school shooting. If the FBI had had and had been using that technology, they could likely have collared this kid before he acted---kind of like that movie "Minority Report."
But two problems:
One: We sure as hell don't want the FBI using such technology in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.
Two: There is no law that could prosecute someone caught under such circumstances before having committed a crime.
Okay, but for "one", the technology is already being used and has been for decades.
And two - yes, you can charge someone with intent or planning to commit a crime of terror. It will depend on the evidence obtained whether these kinds of charges result in conviction. There was a school attack plot (no actual attack attempt made) thwarted in Cupertino after which the suspect was sentenced to 80 years and wound up killing himself in prison.
FBI says a person contacted agency with concerns about suspected Florida school shooter, but it failed to investigate
Someone called the FBI on Jan 5th, told them of the shooters desire to kill people, social media posts, gun ownership, and potential of him conducting a school shooting.
I disagree with people that defend the FBI, by citing the "needle in a haystack". They sent 2 agents to talk to the bail bondsmen. They had the screenshot. At that point it was more like a "needle in the hand". They could have at least run it down and spoken with the soon to be shooter. Or, maybe this would end up like what happened prior to Sandy Hook?
FBI says a person contacted agency with concerns about suspected Florida school shooter, but it failed to investigate
Someone called the FBI on Jan 5th, told them of the shooters desire to kill people, social media posts, gun ownership, and potential of him conducting a school shooting.
It was one sentence in one comment against someone elses utube post.
It was one sentence in one comment against someone elses utube post.
No, thats old news, this is brand new. Someone else called the FBI and spoke to a human, they told them all of the details in my above post including the name.
I didn't assume the FBI is incompetent. That's only one choice. The question is very clear: "What explains FBI failures?"
There is no assumption in this anywhere. Hey if you have some other things that can explain FBI failures, please, feel free to suggest them. I will ask the mods to change the poll options to include those, if they make sense.
The title of the thread is "Is the FBI just incompetent?". How is that not an assumption?
Now, if your intention was to actually have meaningful debate, the question would have been more along the lines of "How did the FBI fail to stop the shooter?". Then you're talking about one specific failure.
There is a difference with an entire agency being incompetent (as your thread title suggests) vs. the incompetence (if that's your angle) of some agents working a specific case.
Gee, I love polls that are unbiased ! That poll is like asking someone:
O Do you still beat your wife.
O Or, have you now stopped.
Lotta choices you gave us there.
Thread title: Is the FBI incompetent?
Poll: YES or YES
haha, but "there is no assumption anywhere...."
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