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Old 03-30-2018, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Just because someone is a Veteran, doesn't make them an expert on guns, nor types of guns. Most veterans were support people, not combat personnel that actually used guns, artillery, aircraft, etc.

Semi automatic firearms started to see widespread manufacturer, and gained popularity at the turn of the last century. So, they have been around well over 100 years, yet only now do people want to ban them. They are common use, popular firearms that only do harm when a human decides to pick them up, and use them ILLEGALLY.

 
Old 03-30-2018, 06:11 AM
 
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Just because someone is a Veteran, doesn't make them an expert on guns, nor types of guns. Most veterans were support people, not combat personnel that actually used guns, artillery, aircraft, etc.

Semi automatic firearms started to see widespread manufacturer, and gained popularity at the turn of the last century. So, they have been around well over 100 years, yet only now do people want to ban them. They are common use, popular firearms that only do harm when a human decides to pick them up, and use them ILLEGALLY.
Of course discredit all the veterans who have spoken up.

I'm talking about the ones who talked about having used them, having owned them.........
 
Old 03-30-2018, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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I struggle to come out strong on gun control because I don't know enough about the guns, the laws, etc..

I don't know enough about the weapons and the obvious grey areas of defining a weapon of war and a gun for protection or hunting.

BUT....what makes it even more confusing for me is for every person who is screaming that any controls will lead to guns being taken away by force -- there is a veteran who has served our country, has guns, likes having his guns, who is adamant that there are certain guns available for sale now that shouldn't be.

Who do I believe -- the emotional plea not 'to take my guns away' or the veteran who is for the Second Amendment, knows and uses guns, etc.

Guess which one
Well, not every Veteran shares that opinion.

I know I don't.
 
Old 03-30-2018, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Of course discredit all the veterans who have spoken up.

I'm talking about the ones who talked about having used them, having owned them.........
Where did I discredit veterans? I spoke the truth. The vast majority did NOT use guns in their military jobs. If a veteran speaks out against law abiding citizens owning semi automatic firearms, he/she are just plain wrong, and talking politics. MOST veterans either fought, or supported those who fought for us to KEEP that right.
 
Old 03-30-2018, 07:04 AM
 
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The AK IS a FULLY AUTO rifle and is NOT purchased often "at the local sporting good store."

They CAN be bought but is very expensive to get a permit for one.
OMG, the amount of misinformation.

Riley Defense (NC), Palmetto State Armory (SC), Definitive Arms (FL) and Century Arms (FL) all make semiautomatic sporting versions of the AK-47. And so do over half the countries who make legit selective fire models. China, Bulgaria, Romania, etc. They all make semiautomatic ONLY sporting versions of the standard AK47.

And yes, you can buy the semiautomatic sporting version of the AK47 at the local sporting good store, if they choose to stock them anyway. If not, the various American companies that make them will ship them to any licensed FFL dealer.

You are talking about an original, selective fire version of the AK47. And yes, you could purchase one made before 1986, assuming you do all the NFA paperwork and and have the money. A semiautomatic only version is way cheaper and widely available.
 
Old 03-30-2018, 07:46 AM
 
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Well, not every Veteran shares that opinion.

I know I don't.
I'm not denying that opposing views exist...I'm pointing out that there are opposing views that are reasonably supported on both sides.
 
Old 03-30-2018, 08:02 AM
 
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The AK IS a FULLY AUTO rifle and is NOT purchased often "at the local sporting good store."

They CAN be bought but is very expensive to get a permit for one.
Wrong. Although the local Dunhams is out of stock at the moment, here is an example:
http://www.primaryarms.com/century-a...rifle-ri2398-n

And another rifle I didn't even know Ruger made, I might have to pick one up.
https://shop.jayssportinggoods.com/s...60-%60--288225


And guess what, both of these are more powerful then the standard 5.56 AR
 
Old 03-30-2018, 08:06 AM
 
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The AK IS a FULLY AUTO rifle and is NOT purchased often "at the local sporting good store."

They CAN be bought but is very expensive to get a permit for one.
The civilian model AK-47 is a semi-auto rifle and is sold in numerous gun stores across the US.
 
Old 03-30-2018, 08:14 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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David Hogg is a high schooler who is already smarter than 80% of the personalities on Fox News. Do you think Hogg is smarter than Douchie and the other clown from Fox and Friends?

Lol……its not even a contest. Hogg would bury either of those fools in a debate. And here is the kicker: The President of the United States gets his morning "news" briefing from Douchie, the blond bimbo and the little black haired weasel.

Man, the Dumbing Down of America on steroids. Thankfully we have kids like Hogg who are going to grow up and get involved.
David Hogg is basically a white Al Sharpton.
The sooner you see him as the tragedy huckster he is the better off you'll all be...
 
Old 03-30-2018, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Originally Posted by moneill View Post
I struggle to come out strong on gun control because I don't know enough about the guns, the laws, etc..

I don't know enough about the weapons and the obvious grey areas of defining a weapon of war and a gun for protection or hunting.

BUT....what makes it even more confusing for me is for every person who is screaming that any controls will lead to guns being taken away by force -- there is a veteran who has served our country, has guns, likes having his guns, who is adamant that there are certain guns available for sale now that shouldn't be.

Who do I believe -- the emotional plea not 'to take my guns away' or the veteran who is for the Second Amendment, knows and uses guns, etc.

Guess which one
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Originally Posted by moneill View Post
Of course discredit all the veterans who have spoken up.

I'm talking about the ones who talked about having used them, having owned them.........
I have to agree with the poster Pilot here. Just because somebody are veterans, doesn't mean they are weapon experts. Even if they have owned guns, doesn't mean their opinions automatically carry more weight.

I think you choose to believe whom you want to believe.

For every one veteran who believes there are certain weapons should be restricted, there is another veteran who has a different opinion.

I personally don't know any veterans who believe taking AR15 away from everybody is the solution. But then again, I am not saying their opinions are gold. They don't even own AR15. Many have parts, so that they can make their own weapon.
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