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In CA our tax dollars ($50million) goes to paying illegal alien legal fees. Why wouldn't anyone be pissed about this.
They also get free state-provided translators.
It used to drive me nuts in Illinois (Chicago area). Large population of illegal aliens. Many driving without a license and/or insurance. They end up in traffic court. Their cases are heard first because they need a translator. So, we wait and wait and wait, for hours. The judge tells all of them to go get a driver's license and insurance, bring those to court, and he'll dismiss all the charges, no fees.
Meanwhile, my kid gets a speeding ticket for going 67 mph in a 60 mph zone. Didn't matter that others were whizzing by going 80. Anyone who's ever driven on the Eisenhower (not rush hour) knows what I mean. Noooo... my kid gets nabbed. OK, so we go to traffic court. Kid's case is finally called. Judge hits her with a $150 fine, plus $125 in court costs, but he'll agree to court supervision if she completes a driving safety course ($70 for that) and if she has no other violations for 6 months and because she has no prior violations on her record, the speeding ticket won't go on her driving record.
HOW in the world do illegal aliens with no driver's license or insurance get off for free, and my kid pays out the wazoo.
I look more at what those of us who are at the upper end of your example here have to spend overall than how many months we have to pay taxes.
Why? There's zero relationship whatsoever between what one earns and their fair share of the costs of the Fed Gov.
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If you can pay taxes almost half the year and still come away with hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay bills, save for retirement, buy a home, a car, take vacations... you are kind of a jerk if you are railing mad at someone who walks away from their 13% of the year paying taxes and only has about 20k to live on...oftentimes for a family.
The jerk is the one who had a family they can't afford to support. The jerk is the one who didn't work to improve themselves and their skill sets so now expects to be able to take money out of others' pockets to subsidize their shortcomings, and/or have someone else pay their share of the taxes, too, "just because."
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Why? There's zero relationship whatsoever between what one earns and their fair share of the costs of the Fed Gov.
The jerk is the one who had a family they can't afford to support. The jerk is the one who didn't work to improve themselves and their skill sets so now expects to be able to take money out of others' pockets to subsidize their shortcomings, and/or have someone else pay their share of the taxes, too, "just because."
^^And we go back to the central theme of the right in this country, that morality is equated to the size of your bank account; rich=good, poor=evil. I'm sorry, I don't subscribe to that type of thinking
Would this mythical flat rate pay for all the things we need to pay for to keep the government's "lights on" as it were?
If it is set correctly, yes.
In 2015 (latest full data set published by the IRS), 141.2 million taxpayers reported earning $10.14 trillion in income and paid $1.45 trillion in individual income taxes.
Everyone with reportable income paying a flat 7% federal income tax would do it.
Just have everyone pay a flat tax. You'd still have some paying WAY more than others, but it would ease some of the resentment those who pay way more than their fair share have for those who pay way too little, or pay no federal income tax at all when filing their 1040. PLUS, many would be less willing to always raise tax rates on others because that tax rate hike impacts them, as well.
Using 10%, as an example...
$35,000 earner pays $3,500
$3.5 million earner pays $350,000
Same flat tax RATE, wildly different tax AMOUNT
For access to the exact same government services/benefits (albeit the higher-income are locked out of access to many if not all government cash transfer services/benefits, like public assistance)
Unfortunately the rest of this is sort of its own little unrelated rant.
Yes, you are right but 3k is still a lot of money for a low income person to pay when there are people who make more and pay nothing. There were no credits available to her because she is not considered low income, or even moderate- lol, by the government. Everyone should have to pay something, and it should be shared more evenly.
Unfortunately the rest of this is sort of its own little unrelated rant.
No, it's not. Just had the question from another poster... How can we collect the same amount of federal income tax revenue with a flat tax? It would take every 1040 filer with reportable income (note that many seniors, disabled, and low-income are exempt) paying a 7% flat federal income tax rate. That's less than many cities'/states' sales tax rates.
You'd still have some paying WAY more in federal income tax than others, but it would be directly proportionate.
No, it's not. Just had the question from another poster... How can we collect the same amount of federal income tax revenue with a flat tax? It would take every 1040 filer with reportable income (note that many seniors, disabled, and low-income are exempt) is paying a 7% flat tax rate. That's less than many cities'/states' sales tax rates.
You'd still have some paying WAY more in federal income tax than others, but it would be directly proportionate.
what happens when companies start giving out company cards as a benefit for working and lowered salaries in return?
people will avoid your flat tax like they avoid other tax, by lobbying congress for execptions
My cousin works at a tax place and he tels me folks with big money seem to always be more bitter when they find out they have to pay more. Not aure what the proportion is. But is jt really crippling?
Don't be silly. Of course it's not crippling. But studies have shown that rich people tend to be more selfish, less giving (outside their immediate circle), so of course they're annoyed.
To the OP--you are actually upset at people "Complaining" about paying taxes? Really? Do you loke to waste your hard earned (i suppose) money to just give it away to the government?
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