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{shrug} it is the illegals that are trying to use the children as pawns. Shame on them.
Suggesting they use their kids as pawns just says so much more about you. Separating kids from parents, is cruel and u-n-a-m-e-r-i-c-a-n. We're much better people than that. Americans are good people and it makes me wonder if you are perhaps just a Russian troll trying to cause discourse.
We should reunite these parents and children back in the country they came from or in Canada.
You mean like the Underground Railroad?
Many of the negative comments here are identical to comments made back when the Underground Railroad was conveying enslaved people to freedom:
"They're breaking the law! Who do they think they are? They had it good back home, why did they leave? Why didn't they stay where they belonged and work to make it better if they thought it was so bad, instead of endangering their children? Send them back! What kind of parent endangers their child by taking them on such a long journey to a strange land? If they wanted to stay together, they should have stayed at home. Separate the kids from the parents - that'll teach 'em! I don't feel one bit sorry for them, they knew what they were doing. They deserved it!".
And so on, and on, and on...
What a sad commentary on humanity- and on the all too common lack of humanity in our country, both then and now.
Just listen to yourselves. Then listen to the cries of the scared children, and the weeping of the parents.
When did America get all these new foster homes ? I don't think we have enough to cover the current needs. Whether you agree or disagree with the policy, saying we're going to place these kids into foster homes is insane.
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Suggesting they use their kids as pawns just says so much more about you. Separating kids from parents, is cruel and u-n-a-m-e-r-i-c-a-n. We're much better people than that. Americans are good people and it makes me wonder if you are perhaps just a Russian troll trying to cause discourse.
When American citizens break the law and go to prison, in your world the kids go with them?
Several schools worth of children gone, and it isn't their problem.
The story said that the majority of the kids had been given back to their parents or to a close relative. Seems like the question that should be asked is what have the parents or close relatives done with the kids.
Those claiming that this is entirely legal and that parents bringing their children here are breaking the law overlook the fact that the vast majority of such parents are seeking asylum - they are refugees.
And that is entirely legal, no matter how many other countries they may have passed through en route to the United States. They are breaking no laws by seeking asylum - there is a legal procedure in place for this. Tearing their children from them is illegal as well as cruel, and I expect there will be court cases very shortly, with lawyers lined up for pro bono representation of these bereaved parents.
My English ancestors who came here for religious and economic reasons might have been termed refugees, as they had left their native England for Holland before coming to the Virginia Colony. Just as did my French Huguenot ancestors, who were persecuted in their native France, immigrated first to England, but disliked seeing their children grow up English rather than French, so left for a new life of their own making, also in Colonial Virginia. In both cases, my ancestors did not come directly from their home countries, but took more circuitous routes. Fortunately for them and for their descendants, they did not lose custody of their children just by entering America. Instead, they were welcomed and assisted by earlier arrivals, despite cultural, linguistic, and religious differences.
My, how things have changed. Maybe we ought to Make America Great Britain Again, after all.
When American citizens break the law and go to prison, in your world the kids go with them?
The story said that the majority of the kids had been given back to their parents or to a close relative. Seems like the question that should be asked is what have the parents or close relatives done with the kids.
You're being disingenuous. Seeking legal asylum and legal status as a refugee is not illegal. The majority of those who've lost their kids intended to apply for asylum so they could enter the country legally. This is a very ugly, punitive, cruel and illegal effort to discourage immigration.
A majority of the kids are accounted for and are with parents or family members, true. But there's a substantial minority who cannot be found. Crummy, inadequate record keeping. At least two dozen children were found to have been trafficked - enslaved for labor or for sex. A few older kids ran away and are missing.
None of which would have been likely to occur, had the children been left with their parents or family members. Certainly over 1,500 children would not be missing.
When did America get all these new foster homes ? I don't think we have enough to cover the current needs. Whether you agree or disagree with the policy, saying we're going to place these kids into foster homes is insane.
We don't have enough foster homes - many of the children are being placed into institutionalized care, group homes, or else placed in the custody of unvetted individuals who are in it for the money or for more nefarious reasons. Over a dozen children were found to have been trafficked for slave labor or for sex, and around 1.500 are missing entirely. Some ran away, but that's a heck of a lot of kids to lose. Our government is clearly incapable of caring for these children adequately and decently, and this cruel and illegal practice needs to stop.
"Sophie's Choice" comes to America. How ****ing charming.
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