Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 06-08-2018, 06:43 AM
 
51,654 posts, read 25,828,130 times
Reputation: 37894

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
Or Cancer Treatment
People used to move to Minnesota for cancer treatment because of the state supported health insurance program.

I used to work on Crisis Response Teams in Minnesota and I can't tell you how many times we were called to the airport or the bus station to deal with people clutching our phone number in their hand.

Their case workers would tell them that that they had exhausted all the options in their state, but the could try Minnesota.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-08-2018, 06:45 AM
 
41,813 posts, read 51,059,937 times
Reputation: 17865
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seacove View Post
As for pre-existing conditions, everyone will get one sooner or later. And if they lose their job and try to get coverage at the next one - tough luck.

This is one thing we can agree on. If you have insurance and develop a condition under no circumstances should you lose that insurance other than for something like non payment and even that should have some slack.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-08-2018, 06:45 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
89,029 posts, read 44,840,107 times
Reputation: 13715
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiGeekGuest View Post
Ayn Rand talked a big game ~ in the end?
In the end, what? Was she on Medicaid? Or was she on a mandated FICA (INSURANCE) program to which she had contributed?

FICA: Federal Insurance Contributions Act.

So, here's a thought... Why not require the same payment of "contributions" (taxes) for Medicaid, Food Stamps, Welfare, Housing Assistance, etc., benefits eligibility?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-08-2018, 06:46 AM
 
18,983 posts, read 9,078,154 times
Reputation: 14688
Quote:
Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
The average deductible for an exchange plan is $4000.

The cap on out of pocket expenses is $ 7350, inclusive of the deductible.

The ACA eliminated annual/ lifetime caps on benefits.
Yep, my deductible is $4,000 and my out of pocket is another $4,000. But I now have insurance to pay the rest of my bill, which I absolutely didn't have before the ACA.

I can absolutely pay down that $8,000 over time. What I can't pay down is a bill in the six figures to millions or more, which one major illness or injury could easily run into.

Do I wish the deductibles and out of pocket were lower? Sure, who doesn't? But do I wish to return to the days when I was unable to purchase health insurance at all? No one who lived without it will say yes to that.

Why is this so difficult for so many to understand?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-08-2018, 06:46 AM
 
27,307 posts, read 16,226,860 times
Reputation: 12102
Quote:
Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
People have a choice of plans. They can choose plans with lower deductibles by increasing the amount they pay monthly.
Either way it is hideously expensive not to mention how you are subsidizing someone else.

Why I opted out.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-08-2018, 06:53 AM
 
18,983 posts, read 9,078,154 times
Reputation: 14688
Quote:
Originally Posted by T-310 View Post
Either way it is hideously expensive not to mention how you are subsidizing someone else.

Why I opted out.
You opted out because you have a trust fund and don't need the ACA. Not everyone is so lucky.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-08-2018, 06:56 AM
 
27,307 posts, read 16,226,860 times
Reputation: 12102
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
You opted out because you have a trust fund and don't need the ACA. Not everyone is so lucky.
Regardless, I want back what that damned socialist fool took away from me after his great lie.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-08-2018, 06:58 AM
 
18,983 posts, read 9,078,154 times
Reputation: 14688
Quote:
Originally Posted by T-310 View Post
Regardless, I want back what that damned socialist fool took away from me after his great lie.
It's very easy to be self-righteous when you don't ever have to worry about going bankrupt because you get sick or injured. Which millions of us did before the ACA. You know, those of us who weren't handed a nice big pile of cash by our relatives.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-08-2018, 07:35 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
17,005 posts, read 12,595,161 times
Reputation: 8925
Poor people need to go die already. They do not warrant significant health expenditures.

Sheesh they need a clue.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-08-2018, 07:38 AM
 
9,742 posts, read 4,496,886 times
Reputation: 3981
Quote:
Originally Posted by T-310 View Post
Either way it is hideously expensive not to mention how you are subsidizing someone else.

Why I opted out.
So when you go to the hospital and pay those outrageous rates you think you are not subsidizing someone else? Wake up to the real world.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top