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Old 07-09-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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The only other fact I'd like to point out is that there is a huge discrepancy in accounting on this topic. People keep throwing out the number "3000", as in 3000 children have been stolen from their parents and are being "kept in cages".

That's not true. The vast majority of these children are teens who arrived here on their own without any parents. How can we separate them from their families if they didn't even arrive as part of one?

Do some research, folks. Seek official numbers and demographics from trusted sources. Get smart on the topic.
If even one baby is separated from its family it's too many. What is wrong with this country?

 
Old 07-09-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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What is a "bogus" asylum seeker and how does one differentiate between the "bogus" and the "legitimate" without due process?

75% of asylum seekers are denied based of bogus claims what does that tell you? They should have to apply at the embassies in their own countries backed up with proof that they aren't making bogus claims. They could also have asked Mexico for asylum but they didn't. We are having to turn them away at legal ports of entry because we have no more room to place them for a due process hearing. What should we do? Let them all in anyway when only 25% are approved anyway and in the meantime we have endure all the costs of keeping them here?


At any rate the only ones being separated from their kids are those who decided to enter illegally with their kids and they were forewarned not to do that or they'd be jailed and their kids separated from them. This mess is all on them.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 08:43 AM
 
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no, not at all: the parents who bring these poor kids here illegally are garbage. They know before they cross the border the kids might be taken away from them and yet, they choose to break the law. How do you feel about criminals here legally that end up in prison? How many of their kids end up in in foster homes. Do you think their kids do not cry as well? Well let me tell you they do. We were foster parents while still living in Ca and had many little kids come though our home who were products of parents in prison; maybe it would help you understand if you opened your eyes or mind a bit?
Not everyone of them is a criminal. Maybe some of them break the law because they are frightened.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 08:44 AM
 
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If even one baby is separated from its family it's too many. What is wrong with this country?

No, the real question is why did they enter our border illegally with their kids when they were forewarned not to do so or they'd be jailed and their kids can't go to jail with them so they would be separated from them. They chose to do so anyway so who's really to blame here?
 
Old 07-09-2018, 08:44 AM
 
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The Left has been unable to win the political argument through honest debate. So, yes, the Left would like very much to redefine the term anchor baby... Heck, the Left just wants us to open the border to any and all, despite their claims to the contrary.
Please show me where Dems as a whole want open borders for all. Maybe one or two might want that, but the majority don't. They just want common sense immigration laws. So yes, this Dem is claiming to the contrary of what you're stating.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 08:44 AM
 
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If even one baby is separated from its family it's too many. What is wrong with this country?
Apparently nothing that's why the illegals keep coming.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 08:45 AM
 
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Not everyone of them is a criminal. Maybe some of them break the law because they are frightened.

Being supposedly frightened does not excuse anyone for breaking the law.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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If even one baby is separated from its family it's too many. What is wrong with this country?
The honest answer? Bleeding hearts who put feelings over practicality.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 08:47 AM
 
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75% of asylum seekers are denied based of bogus claims what does that tell you? They should have to apply at the embassies in their own countries backed up with proof that they aren't making bogus claims. They could also have asked Mexico for asylum but they didn't. We are having to turn them away at legal ports of entry because we have no more room to place them for a due process hearing. What should we do? Let them all in anyway when only 25% are approved anyway and in the meantime we have endure all the costs of keeping them here?
How does one separate the 75% from the 25% without first having their status properly determined in a meaningful way by a neutral arbiter?

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At any rate the only ones being separated from their kids are those who decided to enter illegally with their kids and they were forewarned not to do that or they'd be jailed and their kids separated from them. This mess is all on them.
So you are a proponent of separating families and using the well-being of infants as a punitive deterrent? That is utterly reprehensible.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 08:48 AM
 
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The honest answer? Bleeding hearts who put feelings over practicality.
The honest answer? People who don't give a damn. They're just following the lead of Trump and his administration. Why does that not surprise me?
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