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Old 08-21-2018, 05:26 PM
 
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So all you have is an accusation by a felon ( or is he a felon yet ) or soon to be.
Funny, that was Manafort's defense, too. Whatever came of that, anyway? You hardly ever hear the name any more.
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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So which is it? Does Trump hire the "best people," as he claims, or does he surround himself with felons?

Did he mean the best at committing felonies?

By virtue of being caught and convicted, they're not even the best at that!
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:33 PM
 
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Cohen's crimes were domestic and intended as cover-ups of Trump's pay-offs to his lady, um, make that "female" friends in order to enhance his assumed role as an ethical presidential candidate.

As such, Cohen was clearly corrupt but was not treasonous. His actions did not directly impair the stability and safety of our government and country nor were they intended to do so.

On the other hand, Manafort's crimes involved illegal quid pro quo dealings with a corrupt government distinctly hostile to American interests. His actions assisted that corrupt government to illegally infest our election process and as such, Manafort engaged in treason and is a traitor. He offered aid and comfort to our enemies.

Cohen offered (for a price) aid and comfort to Trump - big difference.

Much more evidence of this will emerge in Manafort's forthcoming second trial.

Today's sentences were appropriate, given the relative seriousness of each individual's crimes.
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:35 PM
 
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So which is it? Does Trump hire the "best people," as he claims, or does he surround himself with felons?

Did he mean the best at committing felonies?
"But it was the very best butter!"

-Mad Hatter, "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland", Lewis Carroll.
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:38 PM
 
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Can anyone say Watergate?
Mueller is playing the long game...and appears to be a master at it.
Watergate was also a methodical investigation that took years to come to fruition.
If Trump cannot pardon himself would a President Pence do the honors...as President Ford did for Nixon?
Don't forget Ford was a late-comer as Veep - Spiro Agnew's downfall preceded that of Nixon. As may be the case with Pence, though he's no Agnew.

He's no Ford, either, unfortunately.
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:39 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Felony Crimes sounds like Trump's new porn star girlfriend!
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Felony Crimes sounds like Trump's new porn star girlfriend!
Or it could be the name of a new reality show.
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:45 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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Or it could be the name of a new reality show.
"Book 'em" is the new "You're fired".
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:46 PM
 
Location: FL
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I can hear it now, Trump on Choen: "I barely knew the guy, believe me".
just another coffee boy!
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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I can hear the angry words and imagine the vitriolic tweets of our Dear Leader . . . "SUCH A NASTY COHEN!"

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