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Old 09-15-2018, 09:16 AM
 
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His toxicity shouldn't even be a matter. It's straight up disrespectful to do this to a dead person who is dead due to HER mistake.
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I don't think murder is appropriate. People make stupid mistakes and sometimes it is fatal. She has to live with this now.
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That's true. But unless she is a total psychopath her life will never be the same. If I hit and killed somebody with my car by accident, I don't think I could live with myself.
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I stop when I feel like stopping. And I never called the shooting an accident. However, I don't believe it was murder. And you can shoot somebody for various reasons. Cold blooded murder, being reckless ( this case ), self defense.
You are way to emotional by the way.
Sure you did. Accident, mistake, same thing. Nice try.
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Hair-trigger twitchy cops are not a good argument for repealing the 2nd amendment.
Not the issue. The second amendment has its price. This for instance. Or the October 1 disaster here in Las Vegas. Hundreds of millions of firearms allow some things that would not happen in a more gun limited environment. The counter argument from the second advocates would be they enable more good than they do harm.
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:10 AM
 
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No issue with bail at all.

Extended time it took to arrest her?
Eyebrows.

Warrant to toss entire apt of the victim...no tossing of the perpetrator's apt (and she gathered her crap and moved out)...more eyebrows.
So you think a weekend is a long time for an arrest of someone well known with a very verified history and identity? What was 8 months then in Officer Noor's case, an eternity?

Her apartment wasn't the crime scene. They took a blood sample from her. What could they learn from tossing her apartment?

I don't disagree that police get special treatment, but she certainly didn't get special treatment for a police officer.
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:21 AM
 
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So you think a weekend is a long time for an arrest of someone well known with a very verified history and identity? What was 8 months then in Officer Noor's case, an eternity?

Her apartment wasn't the crime scene. They took a blood sample from her. What could they learn from tossing her apartment?

I don't disagree that police get special treatment, but she certainly didn't get special treatment for a police officer.
Possible motives, drugs...
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:55 AM
 
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So you think a weekend is a long time for an arrest of someone well known with a very verified history and identity? What was 8 months then in Officer Noor's case, an eternity?

Her apartment wasn't the crime scene. They took a blood sample from her. What could they learn from tossing her apartment?

I don't disagree that police get special treatment, but she certainly didn't get special treatment for a police officer.
I'm pretty sure that if you walk into someone's apartment and shoot them, they're going to search your place regardless of the excuse you give.

Unless you're a cop.
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:02 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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In my mind both the cop and the guy shot are victims of the second amendment. As long as guns are commonly available the police are going to assume an armed opponent in any situation they consider dangerous. That is going to get the innocent killed.
I agree. And its problematic in two ways.

1.) Because American society is so heavily armed, cops have to react to every person they deal with as if that person may have a gun. So we have twitchy, hair trigger cops.

2.) Because American society is so heavily armed, any unnecessary use of force can be blamed on the perceived notion that the victim may have been armed and thus presented a lethal threat.

Essentially having a heavily armed society makes everything much worse.
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:05 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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So you think a weekend is a long time for an arrest of someone well known with a very verified history and identity? What was 8 months then in Officer Noor's case, an eternity?

Her apartment wasn't the crime scene. They took a blood sample from her. What could they learn from tossing her apartment?

I don't disagree that police get special treatment, but she certainly didn't get special treatment for a police officer.
She claims she didn't know Botham Jean. Her apartment could contain evidence to the contrary. In a crime of this nature it seems very unprofessional to leave such a large stone unturned.
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:21 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure that if you walk into someone's apartment and shoot them, they're going to search your place regardless of the excuse you give.

Unless you're a cop.
Serious question, do we know they didn't search her apartment? I haven't heard anything official.
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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No issue with bail at all.

Extended time it took to arrest her?
Eyebrows.

Warrant to toss entire apt of the victim...no tossing of the perpetrator's apt (and she gathered her crap and moved out)...more eyebrows.
Cops protect cops. How do I know this, my ex-friend from school who is now NYPD defriended me on Facebook after a conversation on cops being charged with shooting unarmed people following directions of the officer(s). He defended that one that shot the group home worker whom was trying to get the Autistic child out of trouble since a call was made about a person with a gun. The worker was unarmed and following directions, still shot. He said I don't known what it is like to walk the beat (I don't but I have done security work) but I replied that you gotta call it for what it is sometimes. He didn't like that and defriended me shortly after that. I shouldn't be amazed by it, but I'm amazed at how cops will defend their fellow boys in blue even if they are scumbags that broke the law and need to be removed from society.
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:26 PM
 
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They said they found a little bit of marijuana in the guy's apartment. In the future they'll say he tried to attack the officer, so the officer was only defending herself, and the case dropped.
https://m.dariennewsonline.com/news/...s-13230315.php

They probably knew each other. People don't let their doors unlock.
Attorney S. Lee Merritt said two people reported hearing knocking and a woman's voice saying, "Let me in," before the shooting.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crim...estions-remain
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