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Old 09-26-2018, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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The left is turning America into the laziest stupidest country on the planet. Coddle the delicate snowflakes so they don't get scared and shed liberal tears.
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Old 09-26-2018, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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please try.
Ideally, education is an all-encompassing proposition in which the child learns through fair (hopefully) evaluation techniques (otherwise known as grades). Successes indicate mastery while failures simply mean, for whatever reason, the student didn't master the material...however you live to learn another day at this point.

The failures are a key component in education because they are just kids and not operating on hearts, changing brake pads, filling cavities, or installing furnaces...yet.

Recognizing failure is step 1 in how you reduce future failure. Continuous failures indicate a real problem when it comes to functionality in the future.

I want my heart surgeon, mechanic, dentist and HVAC man/woman to be long removed from the "living to learn another day" part of educational development. Mainly because I need my ticker, my car not to go through a house, my teeth to eat, and my furnace to keep me warm.

Cuz at that point...it's kind of a big deal if they ain't batting at a high percentage...most notably because I'll be severely injured or killed as a result.
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:18 PM
 
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please try.
Upon further reflection, anyone willing to type what you did will never be someone that I could possibly reason with, so why try?

Your post embodies the "self-esteem is more important than knowledge" paradigm that typifies the New Age of education since the 90s, and I am an old fashioned champion of objective grades as reflection of mastery and the larger meritocracy where both success and failure are easily quantified. You and I may as well be from two different planets.

So no, I won't try. I'd be more successful trying to teach trigonometry to my cats.
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:37 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Upon further reflection, anyone willing to type what you did will never be someone that I could possibly reason with, so why try?

Your post embodies the "self-esteem is more important than knowledge" paradigm that typifies the New Age of education since the 90s, and I am an old fashioned champion of objective grades as reflection of mastery and the larger meritocracy where both success and failure are easily quantified. You and I may as well be from two different planets.

So no, I won't try. I'd be more successful trying to teach trigonometry to my cats.
Educational methods have been going down the tubes since the introduction of "New Math" in 1964. Cursive handwriting and penmanship has become a relic of the past. How do people sign checks ...with "block printing"? Spelling and grammar have suffered badly, as well! How many times have you seen posts on CD with scant knowledge of the proper usage of there, their and they're ...your, you're and the infamous "to vs. too! It's too much!

But, my cat did graduate from the prestigious Mar-A-Lago School of Business and still can't balance my checkbook!
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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This policy is unfair to the students who bust their behinds and do the work. Why should someone get a grade if they haven't done the work? SMFH
It sends a terrible message, doesn't it? 'These students are only going to get half of the highest grade you can get, because they did....nothing.'
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Educational methods have been going down the tubes since the introduction of "New Math" in 1964. Cursive handwriting and penmanship has become a relic of the past. How do people sign checks ...with "block printing"? Spelling and grammar have suffered badly, as well! How many times have you seen posts on CD with scant knowledge of the proper usage of there, their and they're ...your, you're and the infamous "to vs. too! It's too much!

But, my cat did graduate from the prestigious Mar-A-Lago School of Business and still can't balance my checkbook!
Younger people don't even use checks, but you make a good point. There are other important documents requiring a signature.

I predict that future documents will be signed using a fingerprint and the government will then have an excuse to maintain everyone's fingerprints in one giant database that can be used against us at any time.
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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In the video she holds up a sheet of paper with the instruction that there will be no zero's and the lowest grade given will be 50%.
These kids are in for a huge surprise when they go out and get jobs. You don't do your work, you are not entitled to 50% of your pay, you are fired.

The people who create these policies are either extremely evil because they know this, or are the dumbest tools on the earth for believing this was a good idea to "protect" the child from....humiliation? Low self esteem? What's their excuse? Instead of thinking it through to the long term. Better to be humiliated by a poor grade when you're still young and it's easier to change that around than wait until you've graduated and then have the real world smash you in the face.

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Upon further reflection, anyone willing to type what you did will never be someone that I could possibly reason with, so why try?

Your post embodies the "self-esteem is more important than knowledge" paradigm that typifies the New Age of education since the 90s, and I am an old fashioned champion of objective grades as reflection of mastery and the larger meritocracy where both success and failure are easily quantified. You and I may as well be from two different planets.

So no, I won't try. I'd be more successful trying to teach trigonometry to my cats.
That's 2 times in 2 days that I've been entertained by your posts. How have I missed how hilarious you are?
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:48 PM
 
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They should have put her on "double secret probation"
Dean Wormer is no longer around to do it.
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:01 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Good for the teacher, but it was written policy on the handbook.

https://www.nbc4i.com/news/u-s-world...-in/1473439237
So much for the law guaranteeing every kid an education.


It may be mandatory but doesn't need to be effective.


Do not disturb! Teacher unions at work.
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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It sends a terrible message, doesn't it? 'These students are only going to get half of the highest grade you can get, because they did....nothing.'
An F is still an F, whether it’s based on a score of 50% or 0%. I doubt that any kid who cares about her/his grade is seriously upset by this. I sure never cared about the details of someone else’s failing grade. The other kids - well, they won’t care either, will they?

There could well be major problems at this school, but I doubt this policy is a very significant factor.
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