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Old 09-26-2018, 07:06 PM
 
Location: North Las Vegas
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At one of the schools I worked at this was posted on the copy room wall.

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Old 09-26-2018, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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It's interesting that the grading policy at my university math department is just the opposite. The final exam has to account for at least 35% of the grade (and it is actually graded with no retake possible) and the midterm for 15%. The homework is generally 5 or 10%.

I wonder how long it will be before the SJWs make their way into university department policy and education is lobotomized at the post secondary level as well?

At some point when bridges and buildings start collapsing, computers malfunction, cars fall apart, our very vulnerable supply mechanisms fail, and we are a nation of dolts... perhaps "educators" will see why (for real) education is important.

A civilization of educated people not only survives, but thrives. A civilization of uneducated idiots who depend on their phones to do everything but go potty will fall apart and either starve to death or get taken over. We had better stop this nonsense before it's too late.
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Old 09-27-2018, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Policies like this are exactly why we have so called "journalists" and bloggers that can't spell correctly or use proper English grammar anymore. It's rampant these days. Look at all the misspelled headlines and articles coming out as of late on the internet. It's a pet peeve of mine and I see several every day. It's embarrassing actually. This is just one example of the effects of policies like this, not to mention the complete lack of intelligence when discussing other things such as civics or money.
I am so sick of this attitude, and reward system, people are being given credit where credit is not earned, and it's wrong, and then other's cop an attitude for working hard...it's not right...same at work....you should be getting what you earn...period.
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Old 09-27-2018, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Great. So they'll learn their lesson when they finally enter the workforce and choose not to do their job. Assuming they don't spend their life on welfare.
They will be the people demanding "universal basic income".
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Old 09-27-2018, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Instead of parents screaming all over teachers for yelling at their kids, they should be going to the board meetings and demanding this change.....
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Old 09-27-2018, 09:31 AM
 
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It's interesting that the grading policy at my university math department is just the opposite. The final exam has to account for at least 35% of the grade (and it is actually graded with no retake possible) and the midterm for 15%. The homework is generally 5 or 10%.

I wonder how long it will be before the SJWs make their way into university department policy and education is lobotomized at the post secondary level as well?

At some point when bridges and buildings start collapsing, computers malfunction, cars fall apart, our very vulnerable supply mechanisms fail, and we are a nation of dolts... perhaps "educators" will see why (for real) education is important.
Actually, it has already happened. Schools and employers are being challenged over why there aren't "population proportionate" numbers of various minority groups in STEM majors and jobs.

It's not like the potential isn't there but minorities have disproportionate levels of poverty, poorer schools etc. that limit their ability to compete in a STEM field.
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Old 09-27-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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At one of the schools I worked at this was posted on the copy room wall.
True story here. Got a call about my kid doing something bad in jr. high from the principal. (Maybe 8 years ago)

Their entire tone of voice during the conversation was almost sad to hear because they started out wary\defensive as if expecting me to deny, make excuses, blame everyone else....but instead I was agreeing with her and said that there would be additional punishment at home for their behavior. You could tell she wasn't used to that as a normal parental response and I thanked her for her call and that was that.

Made me shake my head but didn't surprise me after hearing all the stories from my teacher relatives.

I can't imagine teaching in an areas where there are enough bad people that they influence the politics and thus the operation of the schools.

Personally, if I'm a teacher I'd happily rubber stamp these losers because I really don't have another choice and that's just the trajectory that their family has decided for them. I'd focus on the ones that are trying and not worry about the others. *shrug*
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Old 09-27-2018, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Actually, it has already happened. Schools and employers are being challenged over why there aren't "population proportionate" numbers of various minority groups in STEM majors and jobs.

It's not like the potential isn't there but minorities have disproportionate levels of poverty, poorer schools etc. that limit their ability to compete in a STEM field.
Personally, I think our government, knows full well what they're doing....
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Old 09-27-2018, 10:59 AM
 
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Personally, I think our government, knows full well what they're doing....
This is a fairly easy dynamic to understand.

Some kids aren't getting support at home to learn, show up to kindergarden having never been read a book, not knowing the numbers or letters.

This leads to academic failure, crime, poverty.

So then politicians are simple creatures, they want to win elections so they either need someone to blame other than the voters or a fix for the problem. In this case the root problem is the voters so the politicians have to make a fake fix so they can declare victory.

So, they hire school admins that will get graduation rates up NO MATTER WHAT.

A lot of the "fixes" are further sold to the public under the guise of ending past racist practices (not saying there weren't any at all fyi)....because then anyone criticizing the watering down, turning a blind eye to getting unprepared kids to graduate etc. can be called racist lol.

Oh well, those lower tier kids are effed in a modern economy no matter if they have an unearned HS diploma or not so if that participation trophy degree is what that community wants then oh well.
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Old 09-27-2018, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Former teacher here. I'll explain a little bit about this NO ZERO and MINIMUM 50% mentality.

Zeros are like stabs to the chest. One zero has the ability to drop your grade by an entire letter grade. This is part of a larger conversation about how skewed our grading system is in the US (A, B, C, D are on a 10pt scale, but an F is 60 or below).

At the school I used to work at, my principal had a "zero excuses for zeros" policy. If students failed to turn in work and got a zero, they were required to stay after school, come in early, or come in during lunch to make it up. If they bombed the assignment and got a 40, fine, but at least they attempted.

The mentality around this policy is that giving a zero is the easy way out for lazy students. They don't have to do any work, they get a zero, and no one is holding them accountable. Forcing them to come in on their own time and do the work is more of a punishment than the zero.

Lastly, schools get funding for having higher graduation rates. It's a terrible metric to use because it encourages schools to make tasks so easy that even the dumbest of the dumb can pass.
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