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Old 09-26-2018, 01:17 PM
 
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My youngest had issues turning in homework and would get a 0 until turned in and was penalized 10% for each day late.

It forced them and me to crack down on this behavior and hand in assignments.

Took a year and it wasn't always pretty with me having to ground them and so forth.

They got pretty good academic scholarships to attend college.
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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So much for the law guaranteeing every kid an education.


It may be mandatory but doesn't need to be effective.


Do not disturb! Teacher unions at work.

"No Child Left Behind" = "No Child Gets Ahead"
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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What's going to happen is these kids are going to grow up thinking they don't have to do the work but still get credit for it. This policy may let kids get by in school, but it's not going to let them get by in the real world. Your employer doesn't give you half your paycheck when you don't do your job; they just fire you.
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:26 PM
 
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50% is still an F. IF a student didn't do any work for the whole semester and received 50% they would still have an F and fail the class.


However, I do think its a silly policy and even sillier to have it written down because now the general public knows the policy exists.
I wouldn't be shocked at all if 51% was a D at some of those schools...or if they could get extra credit for whatever to push them up to just barely passing.

A number of major metropolitan areas have surging graduation rates so they can tout their educational improvement.

D.C. Public Schools' serious graduation-rate fraud necessitates serious consequences - AEI
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:28 PM
 
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So much entitlement and coddling in this quote, I am stuck for where to begin clowning it.
Just put them on ignore. I finally did after they made a recent racist and sexist post. Not surprised they don't give a crap about poor education levels being swept under the rug at predominantly minority schools.
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:30 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Why bother even assigning homework if everyone gets credit for it, done or not? Stupid. Which is exactly what the schools are turning out. Stupid. Just pass everyone and let them dink around on their phones all day.
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:50 PM
 
Location: London
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My youngest had issues turning in homework and would get a 0 until turned in and was penalized 10% for each day late.

It forced them and me to crack down on this behavior and hand in assignments.

Took a year and it wasn't always pretty with me having to ground them and so forth.

They got pretty good academic scholarships to attend college.
I've had teachers where daily homework totalled only 10% of the grade, but if you didn't hand in or pass 3 assignments (75% or higher), you automatically failed the class entirely. So you could theoretically fail the class permanently within 3 days.

These weren't quick homework assignments either. They were 1-2 hours every day for most people. English was always my worst subject, and after having 2 assignments marked in the low 70s, I felt physically sick each day when the previous day's homework was being passed out. Thankfully, I didn't get a third failing assignment, and I was able to pass the class.
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Old 09-26-2018, 02:19 PM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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No. The purpose of schooling people is to create a bright future for themselves.
Giving zeros amounts to being buried in credit card debt .
The student can never recover after even 1 zero in the grade book. It becomes " whats the point" which leads to drop out. Teachers are supposed to be creative in encouraging their students to improve and learn. Its not their job to punish them through surefire ways to fail them. Its lazy teaching and amounts to just taking a paycheck.
Have you ever worked in a school? There are expectations and consequences just as in life and if a child is given an assignment and fails to hand it in with no valid excuse that's a 0% just like in life you don't show up for work or you don't work you get 0, not 50% not a do over, 0!

Teachers have become the parents in many cases, the actual ones will not make any time to even check that school work is done even when their schedules allow. In many cases they are working I understand that but teachers know also which students have challenges at home and try to help where they can but how are you helping that child by giving him/her a 50%. I guess when mediocrity becomes the new standard these kids will be ready....
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Old 09-26-2018, 02:45 PM
 
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EDIT - yep, I found it. The school changed the school board guidance.

*****NO ZERO’s- LOWEST POSSIBLE GRADE IS 50%

Stupid policy, and the school added it to the board's handbook policy for grading, but indeed, she did violate that handbook. She has no case, it is printed, in bold red lettering, in the handbook that is the official policy of her job. She committed the violation and got sacked. No harm, no foul. I stipulate.

Political digression - that amounts to curving and grade inflation to make failure less punitive. You get 50% credit for doing 0% work. Such an insidious introduction to the concept of entitlement and socialism.
The Federal government should not allow schools or states to inflate their grades like this. It's like letting a student grade their own work. Curving grading should only be allowed in high competitive subjects like MCAT, Organic Chemistry, ect. Not in basic English, Math, Science. The school is using a curve system to artificially inflate their passing percentage. Standardize testing should show those students lack of understanding of basic subject matter. What is even worst is after this student graduate. Not being able to write or do basic math is a big problem in the work force and those students won't do as well.
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Old 09-26-2018, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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These kids are in for a huge surprise when they go out and get jobs. You don't do your work, you are not entitled to 50% of your pay, you are fired.

The people who create these policies are either extremely evil because they know this, or are the dumbest tools on the earth for believing this was a good idea to "protect" the child from....humiliation? Low self esteem? What's their excuse? Instead of thinking it through to the long term. Better to be humiliated by a poor grade when you're still young and it's easier to change that around than wait until you've graduated and then have the real world smash you in the face.

That's 2 times in 2 days that I've been entertained by your posts. How have I missed how hilarious you are?
Yep, a rude awakening. This is even worse than the 'everyone gets a trophy' attitude that created a sense of entitlement in some people of that generation. You get 50% for just having your name on the roster.


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An F is still an F, whether it’s based on a score of 50% or 0%. I doubt that any kid who cares about her/his grade is seriously upset by this. I sure never cared about the details of someone else’s failing grade. The other kids - well, they won’t care either, will they?

There could well be major problems at this school, but I doubt this policy is a very significant factor.
You're failing to see the bigger picture here. It gives the students unrealistic expectations on how the world works. It may demotivate students who do put in the work but may only score a little bit higher than 50%. And it pushes through students who are not equipped for the next grade or the next level of education.

You may be okay with that, but it's not okay.
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