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Lie #2. Continue to get smaller? I've posted the stats multiple times. The number was 340,000 in 2011. If it was continuing to get smaller we would be below 200,000 by now yet the number was 400,000 last year. And the numbers for the first two months of fy2019 are over 50,000 per month which extrapolates to 600,000 for a year. That is not "getting smaller".
The wall won't stop overstays. So friggin what? We have multiple problems that require multiple solutions. The time is past for playing one against the other to achieve inaction on all of them.
I also don't get why these anti-wall people keep deflecting with the visa over stayers. Who said that a wall would stop them? This is about stopping the border jumpers who are still coming by the thousands each month. Just when you thought you'd heard every lame excuse for not building the wall we keep hearing this lame excuse by them over and over again. Brain damage, perhaps? They act like we are ignoring the visa over stayers but we aren't. They certainly want to ignore the border jumpers though, don't they?
The Dems don’t want to spend $ 5.8 billion for a wall when more up-to-date means are available. Trump only is fighting for the Wall because he wants to fulfill one of his silly campaign promises.
Kind of interesting that the Trump ship appears to have hit an iceberg (in the form of the shutdown) and is going down by the bow. But he and his loyal to the end 35% supporters are still happy to keep saying that everything is going their way and they are winning. I guess if it goes down completely, they might have to admit that maybe a different course of action would have been a better idea.
Maybe when the water is up to their waists, Congress just might decide to take action with a veto proof majority. Or they can just choose to go down with flags flying. Fun time to be a Republican in Congress.
Trump Is Reportedly Unhappy Over TV Coverage of the Shutdown: 'We Are Getting Crushed!'
A Wednesday report in The New York Times paints a contradictory of President Donald Trump‘s position in an ongoing shutdown of the federal government: publicly unbowed but, at times, privately dismayed.
“We are getting crushed!” he said while recently watching coverage of the shutdown, according to the paper.
But the wall will do nothing to affect the people already in the US, so why are you looking at "overall illegal population" in the US? You should be looking at the number of new/additional illegal immigrants if you want to know the effect of a border wall on illegal immigration. According to your source, in 2014 2/3 of illegal immigrants were illegal overstays. So the border wall would affect at most some portion of the remaining 1/3 of illegal immigrants. Once you factor in Canadian border crossers and those who cross via legal ports of entry, you are probably looking at less than 1/4 of overall illegal immigrants affected by the wall. Moreover, according to your source, the ratio of overstays to illegal border crossers continues to trend towards overstays.
In other words, your 42% number is totally irrelevant to the discussion.
The number of border crossers has been trending downwards for years. 2017 had the fewest in at least 2 decades. Here's a chart. Explain to me how the number of border crossers is not generally continuing to get smaller.
Dude, YOU are the one that brought up the overall illegal population with "they make up the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants". Maybe you worded it vaguely and meant to say "new / additional illegal immigrants" as you did above. I'm not concerned about the illegal population already here with respect to the wall.
2017 was low, as Trump came into power and illegals feared there would actually be consequences. Then they realized that the courts have him handcuffed and resumed coming in 2018. There is no "trending downwards" to the data over the last 8 years. Your little chart doesn't include 2018 which would show it jumping back up.
Sure, using 2000 as the baseline, the numbers are down. There was a big drop 2000-2002 (maybe something to do with 9/11?) and then a more gradual but steady drop from 2005-2011 (Secure Fence Act?) whereupon it then rose each of the next 4 years..
It takes two to tango. The dems are refusing to negotiate. Dems care about illegal aliens instead of American citizens.
If they cared about their furloughed constituents, then they should be coming to the table to work on a compromise. They wanted Trump to end the shutdown and then talk about border security later. Trump was smart not to trust the dems as they have proven themselves to be unworthy of trust. Reagan (whom I was no fan of) believed the promises dems made in order to get the 1986 amnesty. Once the amnesty happened, dems reneged on every promise they made. They promised that the border would be secured (it never has been secured); 2) They said that the 1986 amnesty would be the one and only amnesty to ever happen (there have been several stealth amnesties since then); and 3) They promised that no illegal would ever be able to find a job (currently we have 8 million no-match SSNs in the workforce).
It's not just Trump who isn't "budging". The dems aren't "budging" either.
Funny how Schumer and Obama's signature was on the wall bill back in 2006 for the 700 miles on the most porous areas of our border but now it's a waste of money? Huh?
Obama had almost 700 miles of fencing built. How do you always forget that?
Where is the budget justification for the $5.7 billion? Where is the proposed wall going to be put? What is the wall going to be made out of ? Where is the cost-benefit analysis? Where is the feasibility study? There are no specifics for the proposed wall. None. Just a $5.7 billion budget ask.
Nope. It's the truth. Yet you don't (or don't want to) see it.
At one time dems truly looked out for the poor, working and middle classes. Those dems of yore would have been horrified to discover that their constituents were either seeing their wages depressed or were being displaced in the workforce due to illegal immigration. And they would have done something about it---and I don't mean amnesty for illegals either.
Today's dems put illegal aliens ahead of the millions of suffering underemployed and unemployed American citizens. They must be laughing themselves sick over how they have duped their minions into believing that they still care about them.
Neither party is looking our for Americans. However, at one time I would have expected much, much better from the dems.
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