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View Poll Results: Are you happy with Trump’s deal to reopen the Federal government for 3 weeks?
I’m happy with the deal 41 36.61%
It’s ok 50 44.64%
I’m unhappy with this deal 21 18.75%
Voters: 112. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-20-2019, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Trump's not willing to give the Dreamers a path to citizenship. He is only offering a three year extension. But the point that ticks me off is that he is holding our government workers and the trickle down people they support (child care, cleaning services, restaurants workers, etc.) hostage. How is that right in anyone's book? Mitch needs to start doing his job and putting stuff that's passed in the house up for a vote in the senate.

It's a trickle-down case of GOP paralysis.

From the bottom up:

1) McConnell can't do his job because tRump won't permit it.

2) tRump can't make a move because co-presidents Limbaugh and Coulter have neutered him.

It's quite entertaining.

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Old 01-20-2019, 09:44 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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As I've said before...this isn't just about the wall...Trump is playing 4D chess and everyone's heads are going to explode when all is said and done!
LOL!... "4D chess"
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Old 01-20-2019, 09:47 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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You are correct. The dems are the terrorists here. They are putting illegal aliens ahead of the millions of suffering underemployed and unemployed American citizens.
That's BS. Dems operating within confines of Congressional processes, where they can support or oppose bills. Trump took American families hostage.
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Old 01-20-2019, 09:49 AM
 
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LOL!... "4D chess"
The only one this shutdown shakedown is working for is Putin.

Our economy is slipping.

Trump's approval ratings are falling.

Republicans are looking more and more like Russian stooges.
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Old 01-20-2019, 09:52 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Is this f***ing shutdown ever going to end? Are the democrats ever going to make a counteroffer?

This is absolutely ridiculous.
Counteroffer is: stop holding 800,000 American families as hostages, and then we'll talk.

You're withholding livelihoods from Americans as leverage for your wall demands. It's disgusting as it is un-American. Stop it.
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Old 01-20-2019, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You are correct. The dems are the terrorists here. They are putting illegal aliens ahead of the millions of suffering underemployed and unemployed American citizens.
Aw c'mon, B2...

Pub employers are hiring those illegals by the millions, leaving that many American workers idle.

Illegal labor = corporate welfare.

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Old 01-20-2019, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Counteroffer is: stop holding 800,000 American families as hostages, and then we'll talk.

You're withholding livelihoods from Americans as leverage for your wall demands. It's disgusting as it is un-American. Stop it.
Nope - Trump has made offers. The democrats are not giving an inch on border security.
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Old 01-20-2019, 10:16 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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The point I made clearly was that the democrats promised Reagan they would work top solve immigration, and went back on their word, once Reagan gave the millions who entered illegally, amnesty.
Immigration reform was a dead issue in the democratic party, once amnesty was granted by Reagan.

The dems CAN NOT BE TRUSTED.
THEY HAVE ALREADY SHOWN THAT. in the past.

Bob.

And your point is untrue, incorrect, and just a flat out LIE.


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Isn't it funny that Trump supporters classify Border Patrol as non-essential employees in this shutdown?

Kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it?


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Reagan had no problem with the repubs getting votes for immigration reform, it was the dems that reneged, and immigration became a dead issue.
The fault was clearly on the dems just as it is presently concerning immigration.
Like in 84, they now want amnesty for the dreamers, just as they wanted it for the 11 million back in 84.
They promised Reagan,and then did nothing.
You dems are a miserable bunch.
"Open up the government, then we can deal".
Same old sh.. they preached back in 84.
They are not to be trusted, or believed.

Bob.

Repeating the same old lie. Get some new - and correct material.



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Wow! Sorry...using my phone and didn't notice the messed up text. It was supposed to say:

Waiting for heads to explode when all those government employees realize their jobs aren't coming back.

LOL. Waiting for Trump's economy to explode more likely. 800,000 jobs going away would have a signficant impact on this economy and his own administration agrees.



Heck, just allowing the shut down to go on will negatively impact this economy. It doesn't just impact the 800,000 federal employess; it impact all the businesses in their states; their families; and so and so forth.





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Last February, the Democrats voted for a bill giving trump 25 billion for his wall in exchange for DACA. The GOP voted against it under the advice of trump.




https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/na...l/67-519361171

They sure did.
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Old 01-20-2019, 10:23 AM
 
Location: FL
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$3.5 billion for border security and a path to citizenship for the 800,000 or so dreamers. Win win, both sides don’t get everything they want. I’m sure you could agree to this reasonable deal?
"No, Amnesty is not a part of my offer. It is a 3-year extension of DACA. Amnesty will be used only on a much bigger deal, whether on immigration or something else," Trump said on Twitter.
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-no...153324522.html
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Old 01-20-2019, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Also, my understanding is that employer penalties were stripped from the bill right before it passed.

Is this accurate?
That's true.
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