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View Poll Results: Do you support the Democrats' new abortion position?
Yes, choosing whether a baby lives or dies after birth is a decision between a woman and her doctor. 15 11.45%
No, this is premeditated murder. 108 82.44%
Not sure/don't know/undecided/other 8 6.11%
Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-06-2019, 02:14 PM
 
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I was horrified at the thought but after reading this article, it cleared it up for me. Read more in the link.

Before judging 'late-term abortion,' understand what it means, doctors say
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CNN spoke with two ob-gyns to explain: Dr. Barbara Levy, vice president of health policy at the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, a professional organization; and Dr. Jennifer Conti, a fellow with the advocacy group Physicians for Reproductive Health and co-host of The V Word podcast.
CNN: What does the phrase "late-term abortion" mean to you?Dr. Barbara Levy: The phrase "late-term abortion" is medically inaccurate and has no clinical meaning. In science and medicine, it's essential to use language precisely. In pregnancy, to be "late term" means to be past 41 weeks gestation, or past a patient's due date. Abortions do not occur in this time period, so the phrase is contradictory.
Dr. Jennifer Conti: In obstetrics, we don't divide pregnancies into terms. "Late term" is an invention of anti-abortion extremists to confuse, mislead and increase stigma. The appropriate language is "abortions later in pregnancy."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/06/healt...ner/index.html
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Old 02-06-2019, 02:22 PM
 
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This is how someone like Trump wins. When you have people so easily duped and refuse to read the bill, what can you say? It's a lost cause/pretty hopeless.
I was under the impression that the majority in this country was literate. Suddenly so many cant read or use the internet.
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Old 02-06-2019, 02:25 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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I was horrified at the thought but after reading this article, it cleared it up for me. Read more in the link.

Before judging 'late-term abortion,' understand what it means, doctors say

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/06/healt...ner/index.html
And your link also states:

"Dr. Jennifer Conti: In obstetrics, we don't divide pregnancies into terms. "Late term" is an invention of anti-abortion extremists to confuse, mislead and increase stigma. The appropriate language is "abortions later in pregnancy."

CNN: When people speak about abortion later in pregnancy, are they referring to abortion in the third trimester or something else?

Levy: Generally, abortion later in pregnancy refers to abortion that happens at 21 weeks or later, so in the second or third trimester.

CNN: How common or uncommon are abortions at this stage of pregnancy?

Conti: According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, abortions after 21 weeks make up less than 1.3% of all abortions in the United States. This means that abortions that occur beyond 24 weeks make up less than 1% of all procedures.

CNN: Can you explain why abortions happen later in a pregnancy?

Conti: There are many reasons why women may need to access abortion later in pregnancy, including maternal health endangerment, diagnosis of fetal abnormalities or restrictive laws delaying earlier access to abortion care. Those exceptionally rare cases that happen after 24 weeks are often because a fetus has a condition that cannot be treated and will never be able to survive -- regardless of the gestational age or trimester.

It's this exact reason that it's nonsensical to legislate these cases: Nobody arrives at the decision to have an abortion after 24 weeks carelessly."
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Old 02-06-2019, 02:32 PM
 
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What do you think?
What do I think? I think this poll is dishonest and is based on a lie.

The DNC and the Democratic Party as a whole has not adopted any "new abortion position." If you think otherwise, please provide a link.
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Old 02-06-2019, 02:38 PM
 
Location: My House
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Perhaps we could have some choices that actually reflect the truth?

Because these choices aren't what that bill is about.
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Old 02-06-2019, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Majority of Americans are against late term abortion and have always been, long before Trump was President. I've never understood why, if the baby is practically full term, it wouldn't just be delivered and given away.

I have no problem with abortion in the first three or four months, though, since most miscarriages happen then
Most abortions occur at or before 12 weeks.
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Old 02-06-2019, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Just wondering how people feel about the Democrats' new abortion position. That position was articulated by Virginia Governor Ralph Northam, when he stated that one option would be to deliver the baby, make him or her comfortable, and then have a discussion with the mother about whether the baby should live or die.

Personally, I strongly disagree. What do you think?
Sounds like some have taken his remarks out of context. The part about severe deformities or non- viable pregnancies seems to have been lost in all of this as well as the need to ressusitate the baby.

https://www.nbcnews.com/card/fact-ch...ticide-n967626

Putting newborns with serious brain damage on perpetual life support in very controversial.
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Old 02-06-2019, 03:08 PM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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Sounds like some have taken his remarks out of context. The part about severe deformities or non- viable pregnancies seems to have been lost in all of this as well as the need to ressusitate the baby.

https://www.nbcnews.com/card/fact-ch...ticide-n967626
Well, when you only rely on others to tell you what to think, you usually end up on the wrong end of things. These people don't care if it is true or not, and likely know that they are leaving that off. They are pushing an agenda, and truth is irrelevant to them.
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Old 02-06-2019, 03:22 PM
 
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It never hurts to try. What did it cost me, a few moments of my life?
Good for you for trying...very commendable, but it is ever apparent that these are dyed in the wool Trump bots, sycophants or trolls.
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Old 02-06-2019, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Give the parents a year to decide. If it's not working out, have it put down
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