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View Poll Results: Do you support the Democrats' new abortion position?
Yes, choosing whether a baby lives or dies after birth is a decision between a woman and her doctor. 15 11.45%
No, this is premeditated murder. 108 82.44%
Not sure/don't know/undecided/other 8 6.11%
Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-06-2019, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Evangelicals are extremely trusting of anybody who waves a Bible and speaks in their language a.k.a. "Christianese." That's actually one of the things that's the most alarming about the Trump movement.
I think Evangelicals place close to as much faith in Trump as they do God.
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Old 02-06-2019, 06:07 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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I don't like abortion but am pro choice even to the point current Dems do.

Abortion is never an ideal ending to pregnancy. It is only considered when...

1 The mother is selfish and doesn't want a child

2. The mother would like to have the child but is in a bad situation (poor, father left, she was raped, etc)

3. The mother faces serious health problems if live birth is attempted.

I don't see how anyone benefits from the govt forcing a woman to give birth in any of those situations. Options 1 and 2 and the child is at high risk of lifelong poverty / deviant behavior.
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Old 02-06-2019, 06:12 PM
 
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Just wondering how people feel about the Democrats' new abortion position. That position was articulated by Virginia Governor Ralph Northam, when he stated that one option would be to deliver the baby, make him or her comfortable, and then have a discussion with the mother about whether the baby should live or die.

Personally, I strongly disagree. What do you think?
I disagree also, because delivering a critically ill infant with no chance of survival, propels families into bankruptcy, due to inadequate health insurance. On the basis of this, and to spare their baby more suffering, it makes sense to abort in the last trimester. These families hold and grieve their infants after the delivery just as others do, after the birth and death of their infant. But these families won't be wallowing in debt, that is a responsible choice. I think some folks don't understand that third trimester abortions are rare and are reserved only for the above described scenario.
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Old 02-06-2019, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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And he was, and still would be, arrested and convicted according to past and current law. Nothing about that has changed.
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Old 02-06-2019, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Former land of plenty
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If someone is willing to adopt the "baby" (and pay its medical bills) the right wing may have a point.
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:00 PM
 
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I guess I don't view a baby with disabilities as any less human than what the pro-abortion people would call a healthy baby.
You would think liberals would be more tolerant of diversity. That intersectionality thing.

I guess when it's a baby it's at the bottom of the list?
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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If someone is willing to adopt the "baby" (and pay its medical bills) the right wing may have a point.
When there are no kids aging out of the system without being adopted we can talk about adding more to it.
Currently 20,000 children age out every year.
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Sure there is ..... the 4th Trimester begins after the baby is born.
Normal people call killing a baby after birth - Murder. Leftists call it a medically necessary Abortion under these new laws they are pushing.
You really can't think straight, can you?

Once the baby is born, pregnancy is OVER.
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:25 PM
 
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Watch this. Then decide. An expert on the subject.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZXQBhTszpU
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:27 PM
 
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I disagree also, because delivering a critically ill infant with no chance of survival, propels families into bankruptcy, due to inadequate health insurance. On the basis of this, and to spare their baby more suffering, it makes sense to abort in the last trimester. These families hold and grieve their infants after the delivery just as others do, after the birth and death of their infant. But these families won't be wallowing in debt, that is a responsible choice. I think some folks don't understand that third trimester abortions are rare and are reserved only for the above described scenario.
Think again.
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