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View Poll Results: Do you support the Democrats' new abortion position?
Yes, choosing whether a baby lives or dies after birth is a decision between a woman and her doctor. 15 11.45%
No, this is premeditated murder. 108 82.44%
Not sure/don't know/undecided/other 8 6.11%
Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-06-2019, 07:36 PM
 
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Watch this. Then decide. An expert on the subject.
The video has nothing to do with the need for abortions due to fetal non viability or health risks to the mother.
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:47 PM
 
Location: NY
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Just wondering how people feel about the Democrats' new abortion position. That position was articulated by Virginia Governor Ralph Northam, when he stated that one option would be to deliver the baby, make him or her comfortable, and then have a discussion with the mother about whether the baby should live or die.

Personally, I strongly disagree. What do you think?
Murder pure and simple...............
Andy and Billy just signed New York City's death warrant........................
The Feds will find any way to drop funding.
The citizens are now on their own..................
Andy and Billy will be burned at the stake if one more penny gets
pulled from the pockets of the property owners.
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:54 PM
 
Location: NY
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Watch this. Then decide. An expert on the subject.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZXQBhTszpU
Wow.................................I shook from head to toe.
This should be shown to everyone in school...................
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Old 02-06-2019, 08:02 PM
 
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Murder pure and simple...............
Andy and Billy just signed New York City's death warrant........................
The Feds will find any way to drop funding.
The citizens are now on their own..................
Andy and Billy will be burned at the stake if one more penny gets
pulled from the pockets of the property owners.
How is it murder to provide palliative care to a baby with conditions not compatible with life? Is it also murder to do so for the elderly that are in hospice? Is it murder to turn off life support on a patient that is terminal?

That is what the bill allows. It does not allow killing a healthy newborn.
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Old 02-06-2019, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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The argument is that the baby is owned by the mother because it is in her body. Therefore, she gets to decide if the baby lives or dies.
How is that different from a 1 year old child? The child is totally dependent on their mother. Should a mother have the right to kill her 1 year old?
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Old 02-06-2019, 08:52 PM
 
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How is that different from a 1 year old child? The child is totally dependent on their mother. Should a mother have the right to kill her 1 year old?
Yes the parent of a one year old can make end of life medical decisions for a terminal one year old just like they can make end of life medical decisions for a terminal new born under this bill.

No proposed law would allow anyone to kill a healthy baby or a healthy one year old.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:09 PM
 
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The democrates abortion issue is what is killing them. I think this nation would vote overwhelmingly democrate if it were not for the aborant moral issues they have with socail issues like abortion.

That and gun control.

I think most americans are ready to be done with capitalism though and thats never going to happen through the GOP.
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Yes the parent of a one year old can make end of life medical decisions for a terminal one year old just like they can make end of life medical decisions for a terminal new born under this bill.

No proposed law would allow anyone to kill a healthy baby or a healthy one year old.
I am sure Roadking would rather have the government decide how many fruitless treatments his terminally ill child should be forced to endure before it was allowed to die. As a parent, he shouldn't be allowed to make that decision.

In fact, whenever a child is seriously ill there should be a government appointed guardian making all medical decisions.....the parents should not have a say.

/sarcasm
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:26 PM
 
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So you obviously have no clue what those new laws actually call for. Read what was actually passed not what anti-choice pundits say. Personally I applaud them.
This is obvious.
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:28 PM
 
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The democrates abortion issue is what is killing them. I think this nation would vote overwhelmingly democrate if it were not for the aborant moral issues they have with socail issues like abortion.

That and gun control.

I think most americans are ready to be done with capitalism though and thats never going to happen through the GOP.
Funny because since Roe vs. Wade, the Republican party has chosen NOT to make abortion a primary mandate of any major campaign.

Why? Because those Independent, swing voters don't have the same issue with abortion that the conservatives do -- they just don't.

This whole bringing it to the fore front may be problematic. Swing voters are not anti- choice...they just aren't.
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