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If Florida is siphoning off New York's poor and elderly, is that so bad? New York will get richer and Florida will get poorer and more lawless than it is now. For a couple of congressional seats, it may be worth the loss in the long run!
The poor? Surely, you jest. And Cuomo didn't even SAY that. Because it's not true--and they have nothing to contribute via taxes.
As the article stated, it's rich ex-New Yorkers scooping up the real estate. And who cares if any number of them are elderly?
Also, with New York far surpassing Florida with its array of social programs and public assistance "bennies," the indigent continue to flock here.
We're losing the makers, and attracting the takers. And Andrew Cuomo knows it.
I had 6 couples in their late 20s relocate to Florida last year.
They too were those "extreme conservatives" that had no place in Cuomos NY.
They're not wealthy. They're not poor.
Some went from paying 3k per month in rent in an apartment to paying 1400 per month for a mortgage with property taxes included.
Others went from having a mortgage that was 2k+ per month due to ever rising property taxes to having to sell their house take the hit on capital gains to downsize or relocate to Schenectady Troy Arbor Hill Amsterdam etc...
Those that succumbed to the Rino ways and appeasing Cuomo. I told them Florida sucks it's too hot. Traffic is horrendous nobody knows how to drive. You won't find any good pizza or Chinese food. High water tables with water full of iron and sulphur so it smells like butt cheeks.
FloridaMan runs rampant. No vehicle inspections highways are mobile junkyards like Vehicles from a Madmax movie are daily driven.
They can stay there and continue their demise or go to New Hampshire or Maine.
Between myself, my friends, my little sister, Cuomo lost A LOT of money in tax revenue. Really paid to raise taxes and label people felons for exercising their right to keep and bear arms.
Property. School. Fuel. State income. Sales. All that tax revenue lost. And for what? Bad roads. State troopers to roll out at the end of the month to generate revenue that wasn't collected in taxes?
You take a 20 something. Who's earning after health and federal taxes are deducted, have say 550-650 per week. Then nail them with 8.25% sales tax on purchases. Apply NY state income tax. Drive property taxes through the roof if they purchased a house... or have to come up with 900+ per month for an apartment and renters insurance... now if they work one job. They'll be told they earn too much to qualify for any assistance programs. Their options are.
Live in a bad area.
Work 2 jobs 6 days per week.
Or hope a wealthy or well to do relative dies leaving them money
Or move back in with mom and dad and play house in their basement.
Funny part is...
It would be a snowballs chance in hell for me to open a business in NY. A year here worth of hustling and saving/sacrificing, I own my own business employ 15.
Herr Cuomo would not permit that.
There's horrible roads bridges tunnels, corrupt politicians, and public sector pensioneers that need your hard earned money more than you do.
I first moved to Florida from NYC in 1971 when I was in my 20's. BF from there and wanted me to go. I lasted 6 months before I couldn't it any longer. Hated the hot weather, couldn't get a job (had corporate job in Manhattan), and missed my parents and friends.
Thirteen years ago my husband was out of work in NY for over a year. Got a job in Florida making $30,000 less than NY. I did not want to go back there again. After 3 years, I went. Also took a pay cut and did not get any raises due to Rick Scott putting a freeze on Public School Employee Step Increases.
After my husband's heart attack, we questioned living there. The heat and humidity took a tool on both of us in our 60's. People there tried to talk us out of leaving Florida and going back up North. No way. I couldn't take the weather in my 20's in Northern Florida, let alone the heat and humidity in South Florida in my 60's. In fact I used to tell people looking to move to Florida not to come in January but come in JULY and then see if you want to live here year round.
Money? We moved to Poconos, Pa. TOP of the Poconos. Lot of SNOW. Those Florida transplants would be horrified. Our taxes here are the same as in Florida ($4,500), but instead of postage stamp property there, we now have half an acre. Our house is also double the size of our Florida house. $285,000 in Florida and $115,000 here.
NY Refugee, my husband liked the gun laws in Pa, not just Florida. Just this morning we heard shots in the game lands across the road from our home.
This is not to say that we will never move back to NY. My husband has medical conditions which will eventually make him unable to take care for his own home. When that time comes, we probably will move back to NY to a Senior Community closer to our kids and grandkids on LI. Definitely if he passes before me, I would leave.
Elderly woman all alone in a house in a rural area?
One think is certain. You could not pay me a million dollars to move back to Florida for a 3rd time.
If Florida is siphoning off New York's poor and elderly, is that so bad? New York will get richer and Florida will get poorer and more lawless than it is now. For a couple of congressional seats, it may be worth the loss in the long run!
What a childlike assessment.
The criminal element is not pulling up stakes and going to Florida, only elderly (in many cases self sufficient people) and those who have had enough of high taxes and the other ills of NY.
Duh! NY just keeps getting more socialist. Then they wonder why productive people are leaving. Productive people hate socialism! Cuomo is an absolute idiot.
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We’ve previously talked about the problems that New York State has in terms of hanging onto its population. People have been fleeing the state’s high taxes and oppressive liberal government for years now, dropping the state’s congressional representation by several members and putting the state through redistricting every census cycle. Rather than acknowledge what’s really the problem, however, Democratic leaders in the state government continually come up with new and interesting theories to blame these changes on. The latest is a real humdinger. Governor Andrew Cuomo came out this week and blamed the exodus on… Florida. (CBS Miami)
I can say that a large number of my clients are from NY. There are a few factors in why they move but number one is the high cost of living/taxes. Number two reason....the weather!
Cuomo said I had no place in his state. True story.
Even went as far to label me a felon for exercising a constitutional civil liberty.
Why stay and fund my demise? Be labeled a felon worse than a child molester for owning what he doesn't like?
Far as Herr Cuomo is concerned... I lost all my firearms in a tragic boating accident on the Hudson river.
The current brought them down the coast and I found them on the beach
Had to leave NY because you aren't tough enough to handle any confrontation without your guns, huh?
LMAO
But everything I partake in, have an interest in... is verboten in NY. Everything.
Guns, roaring Harleys, fireworks and all manner of disturbance? Do tell. So happy you're in FL and not next door to me. Ye gads. NY certainly has the right idea. It's called "don't be obnoxious and an annoyance to others - and be a responsible citizen by protecting against brain injury and disability and becoming a possible ward of the state by wearing your helmet when riding your Harley."
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Florida is for retirees. A single career minded person would do better in NYC, and families are much better off living in Connecticut or New Jersey (factoring in quality of schools).
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My wife is from Jersey, and her Brother and family are still there. One year, they had an Earthquake, a Blizzard, a Hurricane, and a Tornado. He lost his 6 figure job recently. He's 50+ so he's sol in finding another 6 figure job. His kids have all graduated from college and taken government jobs in Jersey because that's what's left there unless you want to commute into the City.
He's falling in to depression. His Sisters who both live in Florida now are begging him to move South and get the heck out of Jersey. He's starting to come around. He listed the primary residence for sale. After it sells, he agreed to start looking for Financial sector jobs in Charlotte and Jacksonville.
He's on Cobra and unemployment, but thankfully, he's pretty sound financially so long as he bails in Jersey soon.
Stay tuned. I think after the primary residence sells, he'll rent out the shore townhome, and head South.
Well, he wouldn't have had his six figure job, a house and a shore townhome without NJ wages. He may not find comparable wages in FL, but he's well-fixed enough thanks to his life in NJ he can handle the downgrade. Hope he likes the heat. The high AC costs, sales tax and hurricane/flood insurance will zero out any property tax savings. In WI, for 2000 sq. ft., I pay $1,200/yr for heat and $350 a year for AC. $350/mo. is the cost of AC in FL, so I've heard from residents there. Whoopee.
You gotta love the heat to live in FL. I hate summer and love winter, would never move south.
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Luckily we still have a sizable group who vote based on policy and platform, not straight party...as it should be.
If people want a blue state, there are plenty to choose from, but I guess this swing state is just too attractive for them, perhaps they should work on turning their blue state into such a swing state to make things better.
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LOL.
