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Old 07-08-2019, 07:16 PM
 
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It's truly disgusting how you folks are trying to defend your guy. Maybe you haven't been keeping up all these years, so do some research now.

Why was Clinton with Epstein so often?
Why are they refusing to turn over any information about his relationship with this scumbag?
Why did the Clinton's get Laura Silsby out of prison in Haiti when she was arrested for kidnapping children? Look in Wikileaks for the email 'wheels are up'.
What the hell is up with the Podesta's and their pedo-pervy artwork collection?

You think this is just Trump? Or Dershowitz? It involves a lot of rich elitists and it's GLOBAL.

Please do the right thing and stop trying to protect people who are dirty like this. Save your squabbles for other threads - this is about kids being raped - and if you don't condemn those who may be involved - you're apparently okay with it.
I agree with much you say, but Laura Silsby was a well-intentioned American Christian missionary who thought she was bringing orphaned kids to this country for adoption and a better life. Unfortunately, she was naively unaware of Haitian law and so was arrested. Silsby was not what most would term a "kidnapper" - she was uninformed about Haitian law and did little to correct that prior to her arrest, but her intentions, while unrealistic, were good. I was not aware that the Clintons had gotten her out of prison, but that may well be so. However, her case had nothing to do with sexually trafficking minors at all.

Epstein covered much of his nasty doings (to avoid suspicion, rather than for true philanthropic impulses, it seems) with philanthropy, though work with and generous donations to well-respected NGOS and academia. It seems that at least some of Bill Clinton's travels on Epstein's plane were to Africa, where the Clinton Foundation did a lot of humanitarian work.

I have not seen any evidence whatsoever that Bill Clinton has ever been sexually involved with or attracted to underage girls. Adult women, yes - but kids?? Nothing. No doubt if there is something unsavory of this nature, it won't remain secret long. But there's no smoke - so unlikely to be any fire, as far as Bill Clinton is concerned.

Trump is another story, with LOTS of indications of his being attracted to underage girls - including his daughters. There's a video of him and second wife Marla Maples in which the interviewer asks about their baby daughter, Tiffany. Trump says "She's a beautiful baby - got her mother's legs, but we'll have to wait and see about (gestures towards his chest)".

Who talks like that about their baby daughter?? Or anybody's baby daughter, for that matter?? And of course, there are quite a number of photos of Trump with a very young Ivanka - whom he encouraged to sign with a questionable modeling agency at age 14. Some of her modeling photos from that time amount to soft porn.

Still a lot of information to surface. However, anyone who has sexually abused children or underage teens should bear the full consequences, regardless of political party, office, or other associations.
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Old 07-08-2019, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Trump knew that Epstein was recruiting underage girls for sex? Why didn't he call the police?
Simple....He was involved.
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Old 07-08-2019, 07:22 PM
 
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In an unprecedented turn...I disagree with you...Clearly Trump is obsessed with the term sex trafficking- and for obvious reason now....

Did it not shock the senses to hear a POTUS launch into such a subject un prompted??

Hit me like "Russia if you're listening.."
Do you remember the rant about tying the women up with duct tape and then taking a left...and then taking a right......

It was typical Trump word salad, but I'm sure his base ate it up.....

Ah, here it is. Classic.

"Human traffickers — the victims are women and children. Maybe to a lesser extent, believe or not, children. Women are tied up. They’re bound. Duct tape put around their faces, around their mouths. In many cases, they can’t even breathe. They’re put in the backs of cars or vans or trucks. They don’t go through your port of entry. They make a right turn going very quickly. They go into the desert areas, or whatever areas you can look at. And as soon as there’s no protection, they make a left or a right into the United States of America"

What a babble! Of course, he repeated stuff like that over and over even though the border patrol and every expert on the subject could find absolutely no evidence of this being the case.......

In other words, he creates these total lies out of thin air. That's why they have the "believe it or not" and "take a right and then a left".....

Personally, if had a vehicle full of ducted taped women (binders of women....like Romney?) , I'd head straight north over the Border. Taking a right and a left would be foolish.
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Old 07-08-2019, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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Trump knew that Epstein was recruiting underage girls for sex? Why didn't he call the police?

Because Donald thinks Jeffrey is a nice guy!
https://people.com/politics/jeffrey-...on-connection/
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Old 07-08-2019, 07:25 PM
 
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Clinton knew that Epstein was recruiting underage girls for sex? Why didn't he call the police?
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Old 07-08-2019, 07:25 PM
 
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So far all the Republicans in Congress asked about Acosta say they think his explanation (he said he wasn't really involved) is fine and dandy. They are "satisfied" - that's their words.

it's so nice to know he has so many friends in our Government.
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Old 07-08-2019, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Bill Clinton just publicly denied EVER being to Pedo Island. LOL

But, he's on all the flight logs of the Lolita Express!

They're already trying to cover for themselves. They're scared AF.

It has been widely published that Clinton was on no flight logs to the Virgin Islands. So if he ever went there it was not on Epstein's 727.
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Old 07-08-2019, 07:30 PM
 
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Not to say it's exactly related, but it's the mindset which is.......maybe you remember this little news story from during the GWB years??? (Interior Department)
https://www.propublica.org/article/s...corruption-915
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sex-for...or-department/

"Sex for Oil at Interior Department"
"Government officials handling billions of dollars in oil royalties engaged in illicit sex with employees of energy companies they were dealing with and received numerous gifts from them"

Since I was in the Energy biz and following things closely this hit my radar instantly and basically said "Bush and Cheney gave a free ticket to anyone and anything related to giving away our common minerals and land, etc. etc"......

In other words, since the BLM had no real work to do, sex and cocaine became the order of the day. I'm sure those people are collecting pensions now.

They do it because they can. Who here held the Bush Admin to any standard regarding that? Or anything else? Billions of our stuff given away for sex and drugs...
Our city workers got stung big time in an "internet porn surfing instead of fixing the roads" and still have their jobs but at least after 20 years our road was finally paved.
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Old 07-08-2019, 07:32 PM
 
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It has been widely published that Clinton was on no flight logs to the Virgin Islands. So if he ever went there it was not on Epstein's 727.
is there some confusion over the area s of opportunity that clinton could have had his fun with these young girls???

He didnt exactly have to get off the plane too....
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Old 07-08-2019, 07:33 PM
 
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FYI: Acosta imposed a moratorium on processing visa applications for victims of human trafficking.

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status...20564580052997
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