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It’s a lot in a very short period of time all in a very small body.
No, it's not. At birth a baby is exposed to more antigens than she will ever get in all of the vaccines on the recommended schedule.
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The amount given in one visit is too much at once. The bad thing is that it leads to more and more people losing faith and trust. If you want to maintain faith and trust them less is more in this regard. Prioritize.
If you do not want people to lose faith and trust stop repeating myths about vaccines, and the "too much, too soon" idea is absolutely a myth.
"The family I saw yesterday also had one of the most common questions I hear about how vaccines are administered: “why are so many vaccines given in combination shots? Isn’t it safer to give one vaccine at a time and space them out?”
The short answer, and again this is counterintuitive, is that it actually increases your child’s risk of experiencing an adverse reaction to a vaccine if they are given one at a time."
Explanation of why that is true is at the link.
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There’s corruption within the industry. Paul Thorsen for instance, one of the lead researchers in “debunking” any link between vaccines and autism is on the run from the law for fraud and embezzlement. William Thompson was a reluctant whistleblower (more because he was outed) on a study which showed an increase in autism in African American boys depending on when they got the MMR vaccine. After the whistle was blown, the coverup was swift. I watched it unfold before my own eyes. It was a coverup. No doubt about it.
Trust is low for good reason. Within these discussions alone you’ve had several parents and grandparents tell you that they watched their kids and grandkids regress after vaccination. Yet, you carry on, repeating the same things over and over. It must all be coincidence. Yeah right.
Thorsen was not a "lead researcher" in the study you are referencing, and Thompson was wrong. The study Thompson criticized was re-evaluated by an independent outside researcher and the original findings upheld. That is why you have not heard a peep out of Thompson since.
If you believe the study really shows an increase in autism in African American boys then you have to also believe the findings of no increase in white children or African American girls. Right?
The subset of African American boys that Thompson got his panties in a wad about were known to have autism before they were vaccinated. They were vaccinated when they were in order to obtain services for children with autism.
Vaccines are given at the same ages that signs of autism appear. It is inevitable that some children will have their symptoms first noticed after receiving vaccines. There is now a mountain of evidence that fails to show vaccines cause autism.
Keep marching on, Suzy. We will never agree. I find your interpretation of a lot of things to be dishonest at best. But I’m also not interested in arguing with you for the rest of my life so carry on.
Keep marching on, Suzy. We will never agree. I find your interpretation of a lot of things to be dishonest at best. But I’m also not interested in arguing with you for the rest of my life so carry on.
What is dishonest about what I have said? Be specific, please.
Was it that Thorsen was not a "lead investigator"? He wasn't.
Was it that the study criticized by "whistleblower" Thompson did not show an increased risk of autism in black girls or white children? It did indeed show that. In order to believe that the study showed an increased risk in black boys you must also believe it did not show the increased risk in the other groups. You cannot pick and choose what is "right" and what is "wrong" in that study. The fact is that the small number of black boys that Thompson was concerned about already had known autism when they were vaccinated, so how could the vaccine cause their autism?
Was it that the anti-vax argument of "too much, too soon" is a myth? it is, and the link I gave is an excellent explanation of why that is true.
Feel free to try to refute anything I have said here. Just accusing me of dishonesty is not going to accomplish that.
Delaying vaccines only creates a larger window for your child to catch something before he is vaccinated for it.
This is actually the most concise article I've ever seen regarding all of the myths surrounding vaccines - I could wish pediatricians would give it out to new parents. I understand people being skeptical of big pharma (with good reason), but the misinformation that is widely propagated about vaccines is leading to multiple public health crises. Even some of my friends with substantial research backgrounds (i.e. have a M.D./Ph.D. and/or do health research for a living) have admitted to being influenced by the MMR/Autism scare tactics - not to the point that they chose not to vaccinate, but to the point that they were terrified when they gave their children the MMR vaccine, despite having done extensive research on the topic. Our choices about medical care should be founded upon the best science available and not made out of fear. That said, I fear people, in their distrust of the the pharmaceutical industry, throw the baby out with the bathwater with regard to vaccines and make decisions based on the exceptions and not the rule. All medical procedures, including vaccinations, come with risks. For crying out loud, when you do survey-based research, you have to have a statement in your informed consent that completing the survey carries the potential risk of emotional distress. But does anyone actually not complete the survey because they are worried about emotional harm? Perhaps so, but they certainly haven't formed a movement designed to warn the public about the dangers of survey taking (not that survey taking has the public health benefits of vaccination, but you get my drift.)
I see no problem being cynical and I think asking questions and doing research is imperative to healthy decision making. But when cynicism outweighs an abundance of scientific research...well, that's just flat out concerning. Especially when there exist immunocompromised individuals who are depending on the rest of us to get vaccinated so that they can be reasonably protected from a public health standpoint.
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There have been many, many children like my son, whose development was normal until after the vaccines. Because of my age when he was born(47) and the fact that he was a preemie, he had extensive testing for development and was normal or above average for all until after he started getting vaccines. Then he regressed rapidly. My son's specialist said that he had seen this numerous times.
There have been many, many children like my son, whose development was normal until after the vaccines. Because of my age when he was born(47) and the fact that he was a preemie, he had extensive testing for development and was normal or above average for all until after he started getting vaccines. Then he regressed rapidly. My son's specialist said that he had seen this numerous times.
Curious if you were able to file a report with VAERS. How were things handled by the medical professionals?
There have been many, many children like my son, whose development was normal until after the vaccines. Because of my age when he was born(47) and the fact that he was a preemie, he had extensive testing for development and was normal or above average for all until after he started getting vaccines. Then he regressed rapidly. My son's specialist said that he had seen this numerous times.
The regression is programmed into his genes. It would have happened even if he never had any vaccines at all. That is what families find out when they have one child with autism and do not vaccinate the next one, who also develops autism.
The regression is programmed into his genes. It would have happened even if he never had any vaccines at all. That is what families find out when they have one child with autism and do not vaccinate the next one, who also develops autism.
He is the only one of my seven children who is autistic. Next excuse? One is a college professor. One runs a health care company, one is a manager in another health care company, another is a business owner. etc.
He is the only one of my seven children who is autistic. Next excuse? One is a college professor. One runs a health care company, one is a manager in another health care company, another is a business owner. etc.
Were the others vaccinated?
There are many families who have found that not vaccinating does not prevent a sibling from having autism.
There are many families who have found that not vaccinating does not prevent a sibling from having autism.
They were all vaccinated. Vaccines don't cause problems for all.
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