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You don't get autism anyway. You are usually born with it but not all are. If you get it later it is caused by something. My son tested normal for everything, even above average intelligence until after getting his vaccines at 30 months. He then regressed, and was diagnosed as autistic. His doctor was stumped at the sudden reversal and no other cause was ever found.
You don't get autism anyway. You are usually born with it but not all are. If you get it later it is caused by something. My son tested normal for everything, even above average intelligence until after getting his vaccines at 30 months. He then regressed, and was diagnosed as autistic. His doctor was stumped at the sudden reversal and no other cause was ever found.
The doctors are stumped because they've been told not to find a cause.
They are stumped because that is what they are told to be.
Thank you for at least questioning the wisdom of vaccines for all people all the time. I get tired of people who act as if the science behind them is 100% conclusive.
Who are these people that get vaccines 24 hours a day, 7 days a week? I have never heard of them.
I know a lot of people will say that with a straight face - but in her case, it did.
Almost no health condition has a one to one cause and effect; even smoking doesn't cause cancer, alone.
The person already has to have the cancer gene, or be pre-disposed to cancer.
She had another undiagnosed condition that, when she was given vaccines, caused a host of problems for her, autism being one of them.
No, the mitochondrial disorder is the cause of the autism.
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You don't get autism anyway. You are usually born with it but not all are. If you get it later it is caused by something. My son tested normal for everything, even above average intelligence until after getting his vaccines at 30 months. He then regressed, and was diagnosed as autistic. His doctor was stumped at the sudden reversal and no other cause was ever found.
Autism is genetic. You are born with it. The onset of symptoms is variable but often during the time that vaccines are being given.
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I still believe it should be optional for children with mitiochondrial disorders. If vaccination rates are high for everyone else then they won't get the VPDs. They can get vaccines when they are older and not at risk for developing autism.
The vaccine does not cause the autism. The mitochondrial disorder does. Symptoms from the mitochondrial disorder, including autism, can be unmasked by anything that causes a fever, and it is more likely for an infection to do it than a vaccine.
You conveniently left out the detail that she had an undiagnosed mitochondrial condition, and that the vaccines triggered the mitochondrial condition which led to her health decline. The vaccines on their own did not cause autism.
Don't bring up the facts and the science or the anti-science, anti-vaccine tin foil hat wearing left will get upset with you.
No, the mitochondrial disorder is the cause of the autism.
Autism is genetic. You are born with it. The onset of symptoms is variable but often during the time that vaccines are being given.
The vaccine does not cause the autism. The mitochondrial disorder does. Symptoms from the mitochondrial disorder, including autism, can be unmasked by anything that causes a fever, and it is more likely for an infection to do it than a vaccine.
Very few children test normal, and then test autistic. Because of my age when he was born, my son was tested more than most children. Every test was normal until after the vaccines and then even his intelligence level dropped. His speech also regressed. Neither normally happen.
Mitochondrial conditions can be DNA tested before inoculation. Testing parent's DNA should provide evidence of a possible condition before the baby is born, and a cotton swab test after birth could confirm it or not.
I see no reason why this couldn't be exempted for vaccination. But universal vaccination doesn't have to be 100% to provide herd immunity that protects us all. If 90% of us are vaccinated, the 10% who can't be will be more protected than otherwise.
To grow, a disease has to spread. A lot of Americans never saw what an outbreak of polio could do to a town, but I did.
I watched my next-door neighbor boy get wheeled out of his house on a gurney, paralyzed from the shoulders down from polio.
I went to school with a girl who was paralyzed from the waist down from polio, had one friend with one arm shriveled from polio, and another whose left leg and left lung were paralyzed.
The boy next door spent the rest of his life in a wheelchair. He was lucky his lungs weren't paralyzed, but polio robbed him of 38 years of healthy life as a paralytic, and he died from a painful blood infection. At home, still dependent on his parents.
Just before I entered school, I remember hearing warnings of the latest outbreak in our region all summer long, every summer on the radio. When the warning came, no one went swimming. No one went to the movies, or to the city parks. Summer baseball games were cancelled. It was like being in a summer prison until the warning passed.
Like tornado season in the midwest, the polio came in waves, moving up and down the valley. When there was no threat, everyone was fine. When there was a threat, all the kids in town vanished, locked up indoors by the fear of catching the disease.
But when I entered the 2nd grade, in 1952,I was one of the first group of kids to receive the Salk polio vaccine. My hometown was one of it's final test subjects.
The adults who lived here were so terrified of polio they wanted the vaccine, even if it didn't work. Or even if it gave their kid a case of polio.
As it happened, the Salk vaccine did work. Some of the kids did catch it from the vaccine, but their polio was weak and they recovered.
And polio stopped being a summertime plague here. All those kids I mentioned were some of the very last cases the town has seen. They all caught polio in 1950 and 1951. I could have been one of them, but I was lucky.
But polio is not a dead disease. It's still around, and it still kills and paralyzes kids somewhere in the world every summer.
No, the mitochondrial disorder is the cause of the autism.
Hannah had an underlying gentic condition, the vaccine pulled the trigger which led to her autism. Many people can get vaccines without any ill effects. Some people are genetically susceptible to really bad effects. Hannah was one of them.
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