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Whether or not one can define when individual rights begin or not, we know that a human life grows from conception to the point that it is birthed from the body.
As I have said before, dead things don't grow, if it isn't a life, why would one need to do anything but go on about their busy lives as usual?
This is about human compassion for one another. We take care of our children. There are programs and medical care available for any child who needs it here in America regardless of ability to pay.
For anyone to use that as an argument is ridiculous.
I already accepted my ugly truth. I was discussing the semantics of the topic, not praising or rejecting either stance.
The RIGHT to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
How un-American can one be.
Self absorbed, selfish Marxist.
What about the already born woman? Does she get her right to life (pregnancy can kill), liberty (being told that she can not make decision as to who can use her body), and pursuit of happiness (not everyone is happy being pregnant or giving birth).
It gives me a cold chill to think there are so many people who are fine with allowing a baby, just a few months or less from being born being ripped from its mothers womb and thrown in the trash.
It gives me a cold chill to think there are so many people who are fine with allowing a baby, just a few months or less from being born being ripped from its mothers womb and thrown in the trash.
Abortions in the third trimester, those would be a few months from birth or less, are only done in the event of lack of viability, or maternal health. Those third trimester abortions are about 1% of all abortions. There are only 3 clinics in the entire US that do third trimester abortions and only 4 doctors in the US.
Yes I am fine with aborting in the third trimester if the mothers life or health is in danger or the fetus is not compatible with life.
On a moral note, abortion cannot be discussed outside the context of what constitutes life. Life is defined by natural heartbeat. Is it morally correct to terminate a human with a heartbeat simply because that human is growing in a protected environment?
The definition of life is far, far more complicated than that. Even the greatest PhD scientists, medical doctors, and philosophers have not come up with a clear cut, agreed upon definition. Life and death are not black and white. We ease both into and out of life on a continuum. This topic could be a deep and fascinating separate thread topic (and probably is elsewhere on CD).
I don't want to derail this thread's topic, but I did want to address the false statement that "life is defined by natural heartbeat."
Six weeks is not arbitrary. That is when a fetal heart beat can be detected.
I don't accept the argument that female humans are a special sort of mammals that does not have a regular biological fertility cycle. Reading here, one gets the impression a monthly human cycle is a myth.
Regardless, there is really no excuse for women claiming that they are intelligent and capable, but when it comes to pregnancy, they know nothing and need months to figure it out.
You don't accept "the argument"?!? I don't know whether to laugh or cry! It's not an "argument." It's a fact. You truly think every woman has cycles that are like clockwork? Don't we wish! Nothing like "Aunt Flo" arriving unexpectedly, especially when we're wearing white pants, am I right ladies? Oh, but Leineke believes that doesn't happen, so I guess we're all just too stupid to count out 4 weeks.
Have you ever lived with a woman? Do have daughters? Ask them! Or ask your doctor if you don't believe us. Trust me, we are not as regular as you seem to think. Not at all.
And this is why men should not have a say in things concerning women's reproductive systems.
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