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[SIZE=2]Current patterns are based on strengthening El Nino, with a 70% chance if continuing through summer and 55-60 % into fall. What this means is we are seeing weather patterns of the 70's-80's norms.[/SIZE]
The solar minimum, which could last 20-40 years, is producing lower temperatures and "late" snowfalls in the west and Midwest with late May snow storms.
With the falling of temps and increased snowfall, will this dampen the enthusiasm for AGW? How will the AGW "stoke the flames" and keep enthusiasm up for the premise when the nation is faced with continued cold temps and record snowfalls?
Summer will save the day temporarily, where "record temps" can be sited for every day above 90 degrees, but eventually those pesky cold winters and snowfall will return.
Can AGW carry on in spite of lower temps?
Important to know, the government cannot stop global warming.
they have given drop dead date that are a farce and inconsistent with their ineffective efforts. That alone should be a huge clue as to their scam.
Read somewhere about the north atlantic seas circulating due to part of it heating up and clashing with the colder water to create a circulatory event to restore equilibrium.
So much we do not take into consideration such as the impact of our position in the solar system as our sun and planets complete their 226 million year orbit. Surely there has to be some unique impact at some point along the way.
" Consider that the sun orbits the center of our galaxy every 226 million years. I was stunned when I read that. The article went on further to explain that in the sun’s estimated 4.6 billion year existence, it has completed only 20.4 orbits."
That the government can reverse global warming when it can't get the food pyramid correct, when it advocated tobacco/smoking and asbestos as good consumer products, is a sick joke. "give us all your money and we will intercede with the gods on your behalf". Where have we heard that before?
Important to know, the government cannot stop global warming.
they have given drop dead date that are a farce and inconsistent with their ineffective efforts. That alone should be a huge clue as to their scam.
Read somewhere about the north atlantic seas circulating due to part of it heating up and clashing with the colder water to create a circulatory event to restore equilibrium.
So much we do not take into consideration such as the impact of our position in the solar system as our sun and planets complete their 226 million year orbit. Surely there has to be some unique impact at some point along the way.
" Consider that the sun orbits the center of our galaxy every 226 million years. I was stunned when I read that. The article went on further to explain that in the sun’s estimated 4.6 billion year existence, it has completed only 20.4 orbits."
That the government can reverse global warming when it can't get the food pyramid correct, when it advocated tobacco/smoking and asbestos as good consumer products, is a sick joke. "give us all your money and we will intercede with the gods on your behalf". Where have we heard that before?
You have forgotten a dimension... our solar system also "bobs" up and down as it goes about its merry way in the galaxy.
One complete cycle of this "bobbing" takes @ 64 million years... at the "high" point, our solar system is 230 light years above the galactic plane.
Also, very interestingly, for the past 542 million years, the number of species has dropped about every 62 million years.
Global Warming research has already been exposed as fraudulent. All designed to bring in carbon taxes and shut down cheap power for the people. And of course we all know that free energy has been completely suppressed and websites controlled by the NWO such as Wikipedia say it’s “impossible".
The solar minimum, which could last 20-40 years, is producing lower temperatures and "late" snowfalls in the west and Midwest with late May snow storms.
So the solar minimum has not started yet but you attribute cooler temps in parts of the west to it? And NASA just issued a report on the coming solar minimum and they say it will start in July 2019 and end in September 2020. Not for 20 to 40 years.
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009
With the falling of temps and increased snowfall, will this dampen the enthusiasm for AGW? How will the AGW "stoke the flames" and keep enthusiasm up for the premise when the nation is faced with continued cold temps and record snowfalls?
Can AGW carry on in spite of lower temps?
There are not lower temps. You can't cherry pick one region even if its where you live and ignore the rest of the world and make that statement.
If you use Dr. Spencer's dataset at the University of Alabama Huntsville which IMHO is probably the most accurate (since it uses lower troposphere data from sateilltes and not ground observations which might show a warming bias) we have not had even one month cooler than normal for almost 7 years. And I am referring to worldwide data not one small area.
And if one wants to cherry pick one area, how about Barrow, Alaska? So far this year they are averaging 13 degrees above normal. Compare that to Phoenix which is running 2 degrees below normal for the year.
The solar minimum, which could last 20-40 years, is producing lower temperatures and "late" snowfalls in the west and Midwest with late May snow storms.
With the falling of temps and increased snowfall, will this dampen the enthusiasm for AGW? How will the AGW "stoke the flames" and keep enthusiasm up for the premise when the nation is faced with continued cold temps and record snowfalls?
Summer will save the day temporarily, where "record temps" can be sited for every day above 90 degrees, but eventually those pesky cold winters and snowfall will return.
Can AGW carry on in spite of lower temps?
The denialist movement is going away. Truth will win out.
If you would pause for a moment, you would realize how absurd "denialist" sounds.
Fair enough. What would be a better term for people who reject the prevailing scientific judgment of experts in the field because it doesn't comport with their political and religious views?
On this board I have heard:
No, the earth is not warming; it's actually cooling
Yes, the earth is warming, but as part of a natural cycle
OK, the earth is warming unusually fast, but it has nothing to do with greenhouse gases
Yes, it is warming and CO2 is rising, but not due to human activity
OK, maybe humans are warming the planet, but there's nothing that can be done
Higher CO2 and warming are actually good things
Some of these conflicting statements have been made by the same people. meanwhile, the scientific consensus has been remarkably consistent over the past 30 years - human emissions of greenhouse gases are causing the earth's climate to change. What, if anything, we do about it is up to us to decide.
Fair enough. What would be a better term for people who reject the prevailing scientific judgment of experts in the field because it doesn't comport with their political and religious views?
On this board I have heard:
No, the earth is not warming; it's actually cooling
Yes, the earth is warming, but as part of a natural cycle
OK, the earth is warming unusually fast, but it has nothing to do with greenhouse gases
Yes, it is warming and CO2 is rising, but not due to human activity
OK, maybe humans are warming the planet, but there's nothing that can be done
Higher CO2 and warming are actually good things
Some of these conflicting statements have been made by the same people. meanwhile, the scientific consensus has been remarkably consistent over the past 30 years - human emissions of greenhouse gases are causing the earth's climate to change. What, if anything, we do about it is up to us to decide.
Nah, If the science supported the IPCC's claims, they would not have needed to resort to "post-normal" (psuedo)science.
Fair enough. What would be a better term for people who reject the prevailing scientific judgment of experts in the field because it doesn't comport with their political and religious views?
On this board I have heard:
No, the earth is not warming; it's actually cooling
Yes, the earth is warming, but as part of a natural cycle
OK, the earth is warming unusually fast, but it has nothing to do with greenhouse gases
Yes, it is warming and CO2 is rising, but not due to human activity
OK, maybe humans are warming the planet, but there's nothing that can be done
Higher CO2 and warming are actually good things
Some of these conflicting statements have been made by the same people. meanwhile, the scientific consensus has been remarkably consistent over the past 30 years - human emissions of greenhouse gases are causing the earth's climate to change. What, if anything, we do about it is up to us to decide.
scientific consensus says that climate change happens.....naturally
scientific consensus says that the climate is currently warming (not smoothly).....but certainly naturally
scientific consensus says that we are in an inter-glacial period
scientific consensus says that eventually (5000-25000 years from now) we will emerge into a glacial period.... naturally
scientific consensus says that mans contribution is less than 5%
Since vegetation lives on CO2 why is this a problem ?
Why not simply grow more trees and other vegetation ? It would only be a plus's but then that would mean no tax for the carbon foot print.
Some one stands to make money on this weather anomaly .
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