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This is nothing more than an attempt to stop Trump from winning in 2020. Its irresponsible, dangerous and It will eventually lead to succession. Our founding fathers knew what they were doing “leave it alone”.
So what? Since you're so sure Trump can't stop winning and Americans love him so much, this shouldn't concern you. Trump will win the 2020 election no matter what. Right?
NYC, and L.A. should NOT dictate to the entire U.S. The Electoral College was put in place, and has remained for our entire existence as a Constitutional Republic. There is a good reason it is there, and if people want to get rid of it, they should move to amend the Constitution. The Constitution has been amended many times before. If enough people want it changed it can be changed legally.
So instead a dozen-ish purple states do.
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I like the idea that some States are passing laws that a candidate can not be on the ballot unless they release their tax returns.
The vast majority of candidates have no problem complying anyways. Except one. Anyone want to guess who that may be? And more importantly, why?
If it was not a law when Trump ran, it should never be a law for Trump. Ex post facto changes are a bad idea.
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The electoral college is in there for one reason: it prevents large population centers from running the whole show by themselves. I don't want California values dictating how the rest of the country is to be run, and I don't care if Trump loses the popular vote next time by 10,000,000 votes (which obviously a good portion of these are illegal votes to begin with). The democrats are going to have to work with flyover country, otherwise they aren't going to win.
So instead a dozen-ish purple states do.
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I find the notion that the lazy people in this county are going to mount a war over this pretty hilarious.
True that. Several groups of bubbas would. If it ever got serious... google the videos of US Army helicopters taking out insurgents.
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The problem is that it's purple states as well. Examples are Colorado and Nevada. The scions in those legislatures are afraid that their people might favor Trump and they "know better."
NO red states are considering this. This leaves me scratching my head wondering why this is a thing.
It hasn't worked since the 19th century. Losers of the vote have been elevated to the WH on several occasions dating back to the post Civil War era. And it's happened with 2 of the last three presidents, who were selected, not elected.
It's been a dumb convoluted formula for 230 years.
You have to go back at least to 1824 when the popular vote winner was Andrew Jackson, the House of Representatives winner (EC was deadlocked) was John Quincy Adams.
This is nothing more than an attempt to stop Trump from winning in 2020. Its irresponsible, dangerous and It will eventually lead to succession. Our founding fathers knew what they were doing “leave it alone”.
No it doesn't stack the deck in our favor. It creates the ability for lesser populated states to have a say in electing Presidents. The STATES elect Presidents not people. Remember the intent was that your STATE government was to be your PRIMARY government, not the Feds which have usurped power since the Civil War. The theory was that your state capital and thus politicians were closer and you could have more influence over them.
You just don't want the Electoral College because then L.A. and NYC would rule the entire country and we'd never have another Republican President again. Democrats want ONE PARTY DEMOCRAT RULE. That is what abolishing the EC is all about.
What ??? The last time I voted, I didn't see any State standing next to me, I saw PEOPLE. PEOPLE vote, and every one should have their vote counted...…….no exclusions. Would you want YOUR vote tossed out ?
And now those same people are trying to put it back the way it was in 1787, all in the name of our dead “founding fathers.”
Forgive me for not wearing my gratitude on my sleeve.
One has to be very careful before changing rules that have produced a prosperous, relatively happy country for 230 years, since George Washington was inaugurated on a brisk New York City spring day on April 30, 1789.
The constitution allows states to decide how to allocate their own electors. So what you just said is that the constitution is unconstitutional.
The constitution does not allow for interstate compacts, absent Congressional approval.
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