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Old 07-15-2019, 11:28 AM
 
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You know, I could almost believe the arguments that the right-to-life crowd use except for the fact that it is these same people who yell about blood-sucking leaches on welfare or Medicaid. First they want all fetuses, even unwanted ones in households unprepared to raise a child in a decent manner, to become citizens, but then they deny those same citizens any sort of help when they need it. These right-to-lifers should pony up the money it takes to raise all these babies they are saving.
Your mistake is calling them right-to-lifers. They're not. They're pro-forced-birthers. Their interest in these beings does not extend past the birth canal.
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:53 AM
 
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You are a potential life...
You need to get a life and stay out of everyone else's business.
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...fertilization/

“What I take out of these studies – provided they hold up under replication and further study – is that the factual dispute of the abortion debate has been resolved, and that we know abortion kills a biological human,” Jacobs said. “And since abortion is the killing of a human, it is a form of homicide. As a form of homicide, then, the central question is: Why is that homicide justifiable?”

Some of the comments are posted on the article page.

How DARE he say it's a human life!!!
Of course human life begins at conception. When else would it possibly begin?
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Your mistake is calling them right-to-lifers. They're not. They're pro-forced-birthers. Their interest in these beings does not extend past the birth canal.
And yours doesn't either, except that you're willing to spend someone else's money.
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Old 07-15-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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While perhaps not peer-reviewed, the second paragraph in this Breitbart article says this"

To avoid having to form an account to read this rough draft studyt, try this link: bit.ly/2Y8PtZm. Sure, a rough draft means it is not finalized yet. However, this study does have over 60 footnotes and bottom-of-page cited sources.
Has anyone read this "study"?
You dont need to an account you can download a PDF.
People, it was a survey analyzed from "correct" or "incorrect" answers to the questions concerning when life begins and one opened ended question. 62,469 academics were recruited, 7,383 participated, they used data from 5,502 participants.
Here are the questions.

Q1 - Implicit Statement A
o “The end product of mammalian fertilization is a fertilized egg (‘zygote’), a new
mammalian organism in the first stage of its species’ life cycle with its species’
genome.”
- Q2 - Implicit Statement B
o “The development of a mammal begins with fertilization, a process by which the
spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female unite to give rise to a
new organism, the zygote.”
- Q3 - Explicit Statement
o “In developmental biology, fertilization marks the beginning of a human's life since
that process produces an organism with a human genome that has begun to develop
in the first stage of the human life cycle.”
- Q4 - Open-Ended Essay Question
o “From a biological perspective, how would you answer the question ‘When does a
human's life begin?’”

No wonder they only had a 12% response.
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Old 07-15-2019, 12:51 PM
 
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You know, I could almost believe the arguments that the right-to-life crowd use except for the fact that it is these same people who yell about blood-sucking leaches on welfare or Medicaid. First they want all fetuses, even unwanted ones in households unprepared to raise a child in a decent manner, to become citizens, but then they deny those same citizens any sort of help when they need it. These right-to-lifers should pony up the money it takes to raise all these babies they are saving.
Nope, I do no such thing.
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Old 07-15-2019, 01:04 PM
 
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And yours doesn't either, except that you're willing to spend someone else's money.
I'm willing to allow woman to make the choice not to become a burden on society to help her raise a child she doesn't want or cannot afford. I suppose you'd be happy to see that kid starve or live a life of neglect or abuse. As long as it comes through the birth canal first, it's all good, right?
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Old 07-15-2019, 01:06 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Good thing the US Constitution does not authorize the federal government to be involved, unless it is taxed.
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Old 07-15-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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Is a fertilized egg alive? Yes.

However, until sometime around the second trimester, I don't view it as a person.
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Old 07-15-2019, 01:19 PM
 
Location: My House
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Of course human life begins at conception. When else would it possibly begin?
Consciousness?
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