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Old 07-23-2019, 11:55 AM
 
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If someone chooses to be poor? Do you really believe poverty is a choice? That people want to be poor and make the decision to be so?
Many do. It's called laziness. I know a few.
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Old 07-23-2019, 11:56 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Problem with idiots is they think other peoples money stolen is free money.

It's like they say "No one is above the law". Then they let a few million illegals across our border and defend them breaking the laws.
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:08 PM
 
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If someone chooses to be poor? Do you really believe poverty is a choice? That people want to be poor and make the decision to be so?
The choices we make contribute to our present and future earning potential. Some individuals have mental and physical conditions that prevent them from rising above poverty but many just dont apply themselves or are unwilling to make the sacrifices to rise above it. So one could say those individuals choose to be poor.
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:12 PM
 
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If someone chooses to be poor? Do you really believe poverty is a choice? That people want to be poor and make the decision to be so?
No, but some poor people still choose to have kids, which may exacerbate their situation. If you can't afford to have children, you shouldn't have them.

I had a reaction to the OP as well, but workingclasshero beat me to it.
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:19 PM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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The pro life party, amirite?

https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...ion-obamacare/

"On June 28, 2012, the day that the Supreme Court upheld most of the Affordable Care Act, the sighs of relief were so loud that they drowned out one part of the Court's decision that has come to haunt the lives of millions of poor people around the country, and that also has come to represent the fanatical refusal of Republican politicians, specifically Republican governors, to associate themselves with anything that had anything to do with President Barack Obama. In his opinion upholding the ACA, Roberts allowed individual governors to refuse to accept the Medicaid expansion in their states. In other words, just because it came from an Democratic president—and because it came from that Democratic president—these governors violated one of the fundamental tenets of state government that date back to the dawn of human greed: they refused FREE MONEY!"
Pretty hypocritical(a Democrat hallmark) to condemn Republicans by accusing them of rejecting anything from Obama just because it WAS OBAMA.

From before he was sworn in, the Democrat party, not just a few governors,( led by sore loser Hillary) vowed to ‘resist’ Trump at every turn. They have pretty much followed thru.
Can’t have it both ways, cupcake.
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:25 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Anti-Trump thread kinda fell apart.
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:38 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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How many Americans have died after liberals passed all their so-called "gun control" laws that took away normal people's right to keep and bear arms?

Creating "Gun free zones" where people obeying the law could not defend themselves, but criminals could bring in guns all they wanted?

Requiring that normal people keep their guns unloaded and/or locked up so that when criminals assaulted, mugged, raped etc. them, they could not fight back?

Imposing "waiting periods" so that when a woman is threatened by a drunken ex, she cannot buy a gun to defend herself or make her attacker stop, turn around and leave?
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The pro life party, amirite?

https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...ion-obamacare/

".......—these governors violated one of the fundamental tenets of state government that date back to the dawn of human greed: they refused FREE MONEY!"
And this, my friends, displays the childishness, and utter ignorance, of liberals. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE MONEY!

Every dollar that the government spends must first have been earned by someone-only to have it taken by them by force, to be "redistributed" by the government. This isn't free money-it is the taxpayer's money. And worse-the should states expand Medicaid based on the promise of taxpayer funding from the federal government-there is no commitment to that funding being permanent. It can be rescinded at any time-leaving the taxpayers at the state level to pony up. Which, actually IS preferrable. Let the states decide what degree of funding they are willing to provide-the feds don't need to be involved in it.

The expansion of Medicaid was the ONLY thing that allowed it's promoters to claim that "Obamacare cut the number of uninsured Americans". It increased insurance rates to the point that millions of working people that paid for their own insurance couldn't afford it and lost coverage. But it increased the number on Medicaid that did not contribute.
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:51 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Here in North Carolina, the Republican-dominated legislature has consistently defeated any type of Medicaid expansion. What that means, is that a lower-middle class family who is "too rich" for Medicare (because the income limit to exclude eligibility is so low) and cannot afford ACA plans, is between a rock and a hard place.

A 40 year old woman with breast cancer from such a family will probably die from lack of treatment. This is especially true in rural areas, where the local hospital has closed down, and even charity care is only available in a major city many miles away. So she ends up untreated with Stage 4 cancer and dies at home.

This type of family is the kind that voted for Trump. So when you think about it, the Republican party in NC is killing off its own voters. Rural Republicans in NC, please enjoy your TrumpCare! Here's to your tenuous good health!
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Old 07-23-2019, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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I guess we should blame democratic Governors for supporting the estimated 11K a year deaths from late term, viable fetus abortions that are not due to health of mother or medically necessary. Note, this is before these new laws went into affect opening this procedure up to more use/abuse.

Approximately 920K abortions are performed annually in the US making this the number one cause of death in the US (and according to WHO, the world). The latest CDC report (2015 data reported Nov 2018 - https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/ss/ss6713a1.htm) has 638K abortions reported - but reporting is not required and they estimate in that report that the number of abortions reported to the CDC was between 68%–71% of those performed in the US (CA and MD are among the states not reporting). The best estimate (from the CDC) is about 920K abortions a year, which is close to the number of deaths reported from Cancer and heart disease combined (960K), the leading 2 causes of death and responsible for almost 50% of all other deaths reported in the US. The CDC also reported approx. 1.3% of those reported are late term abortions on infants that are potentially viable outside the womb and study shows 89% of those late term abortions are reported to not be due to detectable fetal abnormalities or health of mother issues.

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